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Re: alternate captcha ideas?

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From: Carin Headrick
Date: Nov 21, 2009 9:05PM


Hmmm. I found that once you had the program installed, control f1 would get you everything you needed to know. Right clicking and selecting solve captcha was all that was required.

Yeah, every time I present the verbal problem thing, I get told it's too easy for bots to figure out all the combinations and permutations. It does sound like a good solution though.

Carin
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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] alternate captcha ideas?


I have encountered some sites where the problem is presented in actual text
and not an image or distorted image and this works well. The main issue with
captcha is the presentation in an image that is not readable with screen
reading software. While Webvisum works sometimes I have found it to be
inconsistent and as I use it infrequently I found it hard to find commands
and instructions on that particular site that were user friendly i.e. in a
place that was readily accessible.
Chuck
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From: "Birkir Gunnarsson" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] alternate captcha ideas?


>I appologize if this is mentioned in one of the links presented in a
> response to this post. I assume so but don't hve time to check those links
> till later.
> But one solution that is very comfortable, to me as a user, is to pose a
> verbal problem the user has to respond to such as "what do you get if you
> add five to three", of course I realize this is firstly reliant on the
> fact
> the user speaks English (but if this is on an English language web site
> that
> should be fine, if not the question could be stated in the relevant
> language) and secondly one could write code to circumvent this to some
> degree by figuring out all possible word and number combinations, however
> one could also write ocr software to figure out texts in a picture or
> sound
> file, so I think this strike a good balance, at least for a web site whre
> security is not absolutely vital and does not keep highly personal or
> financial information about the user.
> I know there is a company that provides these solutions directly, or
> relevant software, and I can track it down if desired.
> Again, apologies if this has already been mentioned.
> -B
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:45 PM
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> Being that the issue is still far from successfully resolved it is far
> from
> an old topic.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carin Headrick" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] alternate captcha ideas?
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>
>> Sweet! Looks like I have some reading to do. I'm just getting to know all
>> the goodness that resides on your site, so sorry for bringing up an old
>> topic.
>>
>> Carin
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Simius Puer
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] alternate captcha ideas?
>>
>>
>> Hi Carin
>>
>> All CAPTCHA solutions have problems regarding accessibility and this has
>> been discussed on various threads of this forum:
>>
>> http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread.php?thread=3945
>> http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread.php?thread=3061 (and
>> probably
>> more)
>>
>> and there are good solutions on the main site:
>>
>> http://webaim.org/blog/spam_free_accessible_forms/
>>
>> ...this spells out real alternatives to CAPTCHA - ones that meet both
>> usability and accessibility requirements, not to mention business
>> requirements of security and a low form-abandonment rate.
>>
>> CAPTCHA does have it's place, but there are much better solutions that
>> don't
>> put any burden on the user whilst maintaining security.
>>
>>