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From: Michael.Moore@dars.state.tx.us
Date: Mar 25, 2011 1:15PM

Assuming that the left and right square brackets are just there to highlight the use of the image this code should work fine. I would recommend just using alt="PDF" since "Portable Document Format" is less widely understood.

I went ahead and tested the code using JFW versions 9-12 and found a bit of quirkiness in versions 9 and 11. In these two versions the full text "Document Title Portable Document Format 100KB" was only read when I read the links in using text reading commands or a links list. If I navigated by tab it only read "Document Title." I only tested on one workstation though so it may have been a workstation issue.

With 150 JFW users in our network we are used to seeing a lot of different behaviors with seemingly identical configurations. For example, we were looking at an issue this morning where one of our users workstations would not read the items in a drop down menu as he moved through the choices, he had to exit the dropdown and go back to get JFW 9 to read what was selected. We could not identify a problem in the code nor could we duplicate the problem on two other workstations with similar configurations.

Mike Moore


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From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:12 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] valid table?

Hi Mike,
While we are on the subject of PDF icons, I did this approach on the last site I built. I would be interested in your opinion about this method of presenting a document link and indicating it is a PDF.

<li>
<a href="pathtofile.pdf">Document Title <span class="filesize"> [<img style="border:none;" src="/graphics/ pdfLogo.gif"
alt="Portable Document Format" /> 100<abbr title="kilobytes">KB</abbr>]</span></a>
</li>

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] valid table?

The problem with the page is not the use of the layout tables but the use of image links where the alt text is simply "PDF" the alt text should tell me what document I am downloading. In a links list I just see ...PDF PDF PDF PDF...

Mike Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:27 AM
To: 'WebAim Forum ( <EMAIL REMOVED> )'
Subject: [WebAIM] valid table?

I have been asked to do an accessibility review of my agency's website. It was built by contractors a number of years ago, and we have many content contributors who create/maintain the page.

On many pages tables are used for layout to present/organize documents available for download. Here is an example:
http://www.sbctc.ctc.edu/college/d_EMSI.aspx

While I personally would not use tables for presentations like this, I'm wondering if it really is inaccessible. While there is no <th> tag, they did use an <h> tags (not the semantically correct one though) and <p> tags in the <td>s . Given that this is not a complex table, it does linearize well.

I would be grateful for any opinions about this.

Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
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http://www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;