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Re: HTML5 and iOS VoiceOver

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From: Jesse Hausler
Date: Nov 30, 2012 1:35PM

What behavior are you expecting? Both FF and Chrome report the group as a list. Although Chrome tells me the number of the item I'm on.

I don't have a test together yet for a scrollable div, but as I mentioned earlier, it would be great to tell us the status of the list items "on screen" in an android native list style.



On 11/29/12 5:10 PM, "Bryan Garaventa" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

It does the same in the latest version of Firefox, but works correctly in
the latest version of Chrome.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Moore" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] HTML5 and iOS VoiceOver


> IE8 is probably the problem then. Have you tried with another web browser
> such as Firefox or Chrome? IE8 has poor ARIA support.
> On 29 Nov 2012, at 23:07, Bryan Garaventa < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> I'm currently on an XP machine so this is with IE8 and JAWS13.
>>
>> If anyone would like to test it in later versions, please let me know how
>> it
>> works.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Moore" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] HTML5 and iOS VoiceOver
>>
>>
>>> WHich version of IE are you guys using? You might have better results
>>> with IE 10 and the latest JAWS.
>>> On 29 Nov 2012, at 21:36, Bryan Garaventa < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Possibly, but this looks like a screen reader bug to me, since the same
>>>> information should be conveyed via aria-setsize and aria-posinset in
>>>> the
>>>> same manner as a listbox control would be.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bourne, Sarah (ITD)" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] HTML5 and iOS VoiceOver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bryan, do you think that is because the ARIA role is superseding (and
>>>>> suppressing) the native OL/LI role?
>>>>>
>>>>> sb
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah E. Bourne
>>>>> Director of Assistive Technology &
>>>>> Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
>>>>> Information Technology Division
>>>>> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
>>>>> 1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
>>>>> 617-626-4502
>>>>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>>>> http://www.mass.gov/itd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>>>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Bryan
>>>>> Garaventa
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:21 PM
>>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] HTML5 and iOS VoiceOver
>>>>>
>>>>> I was referring to Voiceover feedback in iOS devices, but adding these
>>>>> attributes to a standard list element doesn't appear to work properly
>>>>> in
>>>>> JAWS and IE for instance.
>>>>>
>>>>> E.G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <ol>
>>>>> <li>
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> </li>
>>>>> <li>
>>>>> Orange
>>>>> </li>
>>>>> <li>
>>>>> Banana
>>>>> </li>
>>>>> </ol>
>>>>>
>>>>> <ol role="list">
>>>>> <li role="listitem" aria-setsize="3" aria-posinset="1"> Apple </li>
>>>>> <li
>>>>> role="listitem" aria-setsize="3" aria-posinset="2"> Orange </li> <li
>>>>> role="listitem" aria-setsize="3" aria-posinset="3"> Banana </li> </ol>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you try this, JAWS announces the numbers correctly on the standard
>>>>> OL
>>>>> tag, but not on the ARIA marked up tag.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >
> > >