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From: Mike Warner
Date: Apr 13, 2015 9:11AM

Thanks, Jeff and Gary. I'm not positive whether the new slides will be
just to make the video less boring, or whether the slide/image content will
contribute to understanding of the topic. I've asked about this and about
whether we're re-filming these clips. If the latter, I'll make sure that
the script describes the slides clearly so no audio description will be
required. I'd like to keep it as uncomplicated as possible for the
students. Besides, an audio description track does nothing for the
deaf-blind.

Mike


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:00:11 +0000
From: "Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: Mike Warner < <EMAIL REMOVED> >, WebAIM Discussion List
< <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to
be
synchronized?
Message-ID: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

IF a major overhaul of the videos is in the works for the near-future,
then holding off might well make sense, time and money-wise. What about
audio-description? Will you be able to work that in at the same time,
bringing the videos up to a more full level of accessibility and
conformance while you have the opportunity?

Gary
NIH

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Warner [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:19 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
synchronized?

Thanks all. I agree with everyone. We do have transcripts available
via a link right below the video player, but they're not synced for
captions, which, apparently, follows the WCAG rules for this type of
video. I also agree that, since we have the scripts for the videos, the
hard work is done. I've been using SyncWords to generate caption files for
the videos on our corporate site that don't have them already, but we've
got hundreds of talking heads videos with no good way to automatically
distinguish them from the rest of the videos in our courses. SyncWords has
a great API that I could leverage to automate this, but my boss says that
we will replace those videos by the end of the Summer with better versions
that include slides or something else interspersed. As such, they will
require captions and we will create them. Given that we'll be replacing
the videos, I can see his point of not spending the time to go though all
of our courses to find and process the videos.

Thanks again for the input, everyone!

Mike

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:47:02 -0400
From: Mike Warner < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
synchronized?
Message-ID:
< <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Gary,

since the videos are just single-person talking heads with no changes in
the scene, we don't need audio descriptions...based on my understanding
of
the regs, anyway.

Mike

2015-04-10 15:00 GMT-04:00 Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] < <EMAIL REMOVED>
>:

> IF a major overhaul of the videos is in the works for the near-future,
> then holding off might well make sense, time and money-wise. What
about
> audio-description? Will you be able to work that in at the same time,
> bringing the videos up to a more full level of accessibility and
> conformance while you have the opportunity?
>
> Gary
> NIH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Warner [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:19 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
> synchronized?
>
> Thanks all. I agree with everyone. We do have transcripts available
via
> a link right below the video player, but they're not synced for
captions,
> which, apparently, follows the WCAG rules for this type of video. I
also
> agree that, since we have the scripts for the videos, the hard work is
> done. I've been using SyncWords to generate caption files for the
videos on
> our corporate site that don't have them already, but we've got
hundreds of
> talking heads videos with no good way to automatically distinguish
them
> from the rest of the videos in our courses. SyncWords has a great
API that
> I could leverage to automate this, but my boss says that we will
replace
> those videos by the end of the Summer with better versions that
include
> slides or something else interspersed. As such, they will require
captions
> and we will create them. Given that we'll be replacing the videos, I
can
> see his point of not spending the time to go though all of our
courses to
> find and process the videos.
>
> Thanks again for the input, everyone!
>
> Mike
>
>


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:55:49 +0000
From: "Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: Mike Warner < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
synchronized?
Message-ID: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Ah, right – on the current ones, you did say that, didn't you? But, in
the new ones, you mentioned there might be slides or something else
interspersed. So, there could be more visual content included then,
couldn't there? So, Audio-Description could be appropriate or simply an
increased/improved narration which takes the visual content and the needs
of potential viewers into account. Just some Friday afternoon pondering ☺


Gary M. Morin, Program Analyst
NIH Office of the Chief Information Officer
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Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you
really need to.
What if the first question we asked was, "what is so unique about this
situation that it justifies exclusion? instead of, "how much does it cost
to make it accessible?


From: Mike Warner [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 3:47 PM
To: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
synchronized?

Hi Gary,
since the videos are just single-person talking heads with no changes
in the scene, we don't need audio descriptions...based on my understanding
of the regs, anyway.

Mike
2015-04-10 15:00 GMT-04:00 Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] < <EMAIL REMOVED>
<mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >>:
IF a major overhaul of the videos is in the works for the near-future,
then holding off might well make sense, time and money-wise. What about
audio-description? Will you be able to work that in at the same time,
bringing the videos up to a more full level of accessibility and
conformance while you have the opportunity?

Gary
NIH

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Warner [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto:
<EMAIL REMOVED> >]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:19 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
synchronized?
Thanks all. I agree with everyone. We do have transcripts available
via a link right below the video player, but they're not synced for
captions, which, apparently, follows the WCAG rules for this type of
video. I also agree that, since we have the scripts for the videos, the
hard work is done. I've been using SyncWords to generate caption files for
the videos on our corporate site that don't have them already, but we've
got hundreds of talking heads videos with no good way to automatically
distinguish them from the rest of the videos in our courses. SyncWords has
a great API that I could leverage to automate this, but my boss says that
we will replace those videos by the end of the Summer with better versions
that include slides or something else interspersed. As such, they will
require captions and we will create them. Given that we'll be replacing
the videos, I can see his point of not spending the time to go though all
of our courses to find and process the videos.

Thanks again for the input, everyone!

Mike


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:03:08 -0400
From: Mike Warner < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Cc: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
synchronized?
Message-ID:
<CAD8NTJ_= <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The new ones will have captions, and there won't be any action, just
slides
and the like, so you're not looking at the same person's face for five
minutes.

Mike Warner
Director of IT Services
MindEdge, Inc.

2015-04-10 15:55 GMT-04:00 Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] < <EMAIL REMOVED>
>:

> Ah, right – on the current ones, you did say that, didn't you? But,
in
> the new ones, you mentioned there might be slides or something else
> interspersed. So, there could be more visual content included then,
> couldn't there? So, Audio-Description could be appropriate or simply
an
> increased/improved narration which takes the visual content and the
needs
> of potential viewers into account. Just some Friday afternoon
pondering J
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gary M. Morin, Program Analyst*
>
> *NIH Office of the Chief Information Officer*
>
> *10401 Fernwood Rd, Room 3G-17*
>
> *Bethesda, MD 20892, Mail Stop: 4833*
>
>
>
> *(301) 402-3924 <%28301%29%20402-3924> Voice, (301) 451-9326
> <%28301%29%20451-9326> TTY/NTS*
>
> *(240) 200 5030 <%28240%29%20200%205030> Videophone; (301) 402-4464
> <%28301%29%20402-4464> Fax*
>
>
>
> NIH Section 508: http://508.nih.gov, NIH Section 508 Coordinators
list:
>
https://ocio.nih.gov/ITGovPolicy/NIH508/Pages/Section508Coordinators.aspx
>
> Looking to test and remediate your Electronic and Information
Technology
> (EIT) products? NIH Accessibility Testing Lab:
> <https://ocio.nih.gov/ITGovPolicy/NIH508/Pages/NATLab.aspx> A free
> resource for all NIH ICs and OD offices.
>
> NIH Section 508 Team: mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED>
?subject=Section
> 508 Help < <EMAIL REMOVED> ?subject=Section%20508%20Help>
or,
> for Section 508 Guidance <http://www.hhs.gov/web/508/index.html>;,
> http://www.hhs.gov/web/508/index.html
>
> Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you
really
> need to.
>
> *What if the first question we asked was, "what is so unique about
this
> situation that it justifies exclusion? instead of, "how much does it
cost
> to make it accessible?*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Warner [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2015 3:47 PM
> *To:* Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
> *Cc:* WebAIM Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to
be
> synchronized?
>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> since the videos are just single-person talking heads with no changes
in
> the scene, we don't need audio descriptions...based on my
understanding of
> the regs, anyway.
>
>
> Mike
>
> 2015-04-10 15:00 GMT-04:00 Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
<EMAIL REMOVED> >:
>
> IF a major overhaul of the videos is in the works for the near-future,
> then holding off might well make sense, time and money-wise. What
about
> audio-description? Will you be able to work that in at the same time,
> bringing the videos up to a more full level of accessibility and
> conformance while you have the opportunity?
>
> Gary
> NIH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Warner [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:19 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to be
> synchronized?
>
> Thanks all. I agree with everyone. We do have transcripts available
via
> a link right below the video player, but they're not synced for
captions,
> which, apparently, follows the WCAG rules for this type of video. I
also
> agree that, since we have the scripts for the videos, the hard work is
> done. I've been using SyncWords to generate caption files for the
videos on
> our corporate site that don't have them already, but we've got
hundreds of
> talking heads videos with no good way to automatically distinguish
them
> from the rest of the videos in our courses. SyncWords has a great
API that
> I could leverage to automate this, but my boss says that we will
replace
> those videos by the end of the Summer with better versions that
include
> slides or something else interspersed. As such, they will require
captions
> and we will create them. Given that we'll be replacing the videos, I
can
> see his point of not spending the time to go though all of our
courses to
> find and process the videos.
>
> Thanks again for the input, everyone!
>
> Mike
>
>
>


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:19:25 -0700
From: "John Foliot" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >,
"'Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] video transcripts for talking heads: need to
be
synchronized?
Message-ID: <031f01d073cb$a41a0b70$ec4e2250$@ca>

Mike Warner wrote:
>
> The new ones will have captions, and there won't be any action, just
> slides and the like, so you're not looking at the same person's face
> for five minutes.
>

The addition of "...slides and the like..." will likely warrant audio
description or similar to be WCAG compliant. While captions will
benefit the
deaf and hard-of-hearing user, the content on those slides will either
need to
be described to the non-sighted user (AA conformance), or a full
transcript
that includes text equivalents of the slides must be provided (A
conformance).

WCAG:
SC 1.2.3 Audio Description or Media Alternative (Prerecorded): An
alternative
for time-based media or audio description of the prerecorded video
content is
provided for synchronized media, except when the media is a media
alternative
for text and is clearly labeled as such. (Level A)

SC 1.2.5 Audio Description (Prerecorded): Audio description is provided
for
all prerecorded video content in synchronized media. (Level AA)

JF