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From: Megginson, Jason
Date: Jul 8, 2016 9:13AM


Venkatesh,

I wouldn't rush to call this a JAWS issue. First look into whether there is a syntax or IE-specific issue. I used the MSAA Object Inspector in IE on your URL you provided. I see that the accessible name of the combo box contains the options as part of the label as you have observed. JAWS and NVDA are rendering the label exactly as the IE browser is exposing it.

Have you tried moving the closing the </label> element around the on-screen label text rather than closing the </label> after the options in the source code. Be interesting to see if you get better results.

Jason Megginson

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Clarification on forms mode of screen readers

Hi Watson,
Thank you for the valuable reference about the screen reader interaction modes.

https://www.aa.com/international/internationalSplashAccess.do?countryCodeForIP=IN


As I am core user of NVDA, I never faced an issue like what I described.
Now consider the above link and I have used the combination IE11/JAWS 17 to navigate through the page. What I found is, when virtual pc cursor is "on"
jaws is announcing only the selected list item in the "select your country of residence" combobox. But when it is "off", observe jaws starts announcing all the list items present in combobox followed by selected item as soon as we focus to combobox. I have seen this type of behaviour in many cases.

If we take the same scenario with NVDA, the result is same in both normal and forms mode. NVda starts announcing all the list items in the combobox.

My question is whether I can raise bug about what happened in JAWS when virtual pc cursor is "off" in the scenario. If That is the case, we have to test application in both the modes. Also I have a doubt where we can take the full advantage of forms mode.
Thank you.

Regards,
venkatesh.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Vemaarapu Venkatesh < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi Watson,
> Thank you for the valuable reference about the screen reader
> interaction modes.
>
>
> https://www.aa.com/international/internationalSplashAccess.do?countryC
> odeForIP=IN
>
> As I am core user of NVDA, I never faced an issue like what I described.
> Now consider the above link and I have used the combination IE11/JAWS
> 17 to navigate through the page. What I found is, when virtual pc cursor is "on"
> jaws is announcing only the selected list item in the "select your
> country of residence" combobox. But when it is "off", observe jaws
> starts announcing all the list items present in combobox followed by
> selected item as soon as we focus to combobox. I have seen this type
> of behaviour in many cases.
>
> If we take the same scenario with NVDA, the result is same in both
> normal and forms mode. NVda starts announcing all the list items in the combobox.
>
> My question is whether I can raise bug about what happened in JAWS
> when virtual pc cursor is "off" in the scenario. If That is the case,
> we have to test application in both the modes. Also I have a doubt
> where we can take the full advantage of forms mode.
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> venkatesh.
>