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Re: Alt+Down arrow in combo box well known?

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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Apr 7, 2017 10:41AM


Hello,
as seen below, onchange is a violation, not a poor choice. That is a
terrible platform if you can not get keydown and onclick. I would suggest
changing platforms. But one thing you could do is place a little message
above the box telling users about alt+down arrow. Another thing you could
do is not reload the page, just change the text in the other elements. The
most common approach is to have a lag of 5-10 seconds after the user has
settled on an option before changing. This sort of works.
But please change platforms if there is no support for onclick or keydown
events. That is just promoting bad design.
Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Joseph Sherman < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> I know onchange is poor, unfortunately this is within a limited platform
> application so options are limited. I do not believe we can write standard
> HTML; just use the options the platform gives us.
>
> Joseph
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Brandon Keith Biggs
> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:04 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Alt+Down arrow in combo box well known?
> >
> > Hello,
> > If you would like the feel to be the same for blind and sighted
> users,couldn't one
> > just check for click, space and return rather than the onchange event?
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Beranek, Nicholas <
> > <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's also a violation of SC 3.2.2 On Input to change context upon
> > > selecting an option.
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > On Apr 6, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Bossley, Peter A. < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would say that you can't rely on them knowing about expanding
> > > > select
> > > boxes. Also, Changing something based on someone arrowing through a
> > > select list is a bad idea for a few reasons, but mostly because screen
> > > reader users might not be aware of the change. Worse yet is if the
> > > change involves moving focus or loading a new page, that'll create
> > > issues for both screen reader and keyboard users.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> > > Behalf Of Joseph Sherman
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:01 PM
> > > > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > > Subject: [WebAIM] Alt+Down arrow in combo box well known?
> > > >
> > > > Do screen reader users generally know to use Alt+Down arrow in combo
> > > > box
> > > to list all possible choices?
> > > >
> > > > We have a giant combo box for Country of Citizenship with 200+
> options.
> > > If the user does not use Alt+Arrow to list choices, the screen reader
> > > does not tell them "X of 200".
> > > >
> > > > Also it calculates whether to show Country of Birth or Residency
> > > > Status
> > > "onchange", which is bad code, avoided if using Alt+Down arrow
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Joseph
> > > >
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