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Re: JAWS 18 "no more headings at level X in this section"

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From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Apr 14, 2017 10:37AM

I like the JAWS approach too, it gives you a little more idea of page organization by staying within a section. You can also use the h or shift-h commands to move to the next, or previous heading, whatever level it is at. This is often quicker than guessing at absolute heading levels.

Dave



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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 18 "no more headings at level X in this section"

This stems from the special way in which Jaws handles heading structure.
Jaws will stop looking for your desired level heading either if it hits the end of the page or if it hits a heading at a lower level.
In other words:
If you have the following heading structure:

h2 - welcome

h3 heading in header

h1 main content

h2 search results

h3 search result 1

h3 search result 2

Imagine you are on the h2 heading at the top of the page and press "3", you will be taken to the h3 heading in the header.
Now pressing any number other than 1 will cause Jaws to announce "no more headings in this section", because the next heading is an h1.
Jaws is correct in a way, if we use heading structure to mark sections.


If you press "1" at this point, you are placed on the "h1" heading.

If you press "3" with focus on the h1 heading, you will get a "no more headings in this section" announcement again, because Jaws started looking, found an "h2" (search results" and stopped.

If you press "2" you move to search results.
If you now press "3" you can move between search results.

If you want the fastest way to get from top of this page to search results using heading navigation in Jaws you have to press "1" "2" and then "3" (main, search results, individual result).

NVDA does not not split the page into sections, it just looks for the next h3 heading on the page regardless of context.

I am not sure if you can change Jaws settings to behave that way.
Oddly, I like the Jaws's approach (maybe it is habit).



On 4/14/17, Steve Faulkner < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>
> it would be helpful if you provided:
>
> - JAWS version
> - browser and version
> - code example
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> Current Standards Work @W3C
> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w
> 3c/>
>
> On 14 April 2017 at 15:06, Joseph Sherman < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> I'm on a page with a bunch of regions and headings. The top of page
>> is the banner and search region. The main region has search results
>> which are labeled H3. When the page loads the cursor is at the top of
>> the page in the banner region. I press "3" to go to the first h3
>> search results, but JAWS says ""no more headings at level X in this
>> section".
>> Why does JAWS give this unhelpful response instead of going to the h3
>> in the Main section? When I press "3' in NVDA, it goes directly to
>> the first search result, h3.
>>
>> I find this happens in a number of pages and web applications and is
>> very annoying to have to first be in the correct region, and then be
>> able to go to the heading that I want. Sometimes this happens for h1
>> in the main region if I am in the banner region. Is there a setting
>> or something I can change in JAWS?
>> Joseph
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


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