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Re: The Accessibility of Browser-based Development Environments

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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Aug 4, 2017 4:25AM


Hello yura,
1. Do you have any screen reader users who guide one through using the dev
tools?
2. Do I need to install anything other than Firefox to get the latest
accessibility changes?
Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Yura Zenevich < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> This work is starting to being reviewed and landing in Firefox Nightly very
> shortly - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id51468
> cheers,
> yura
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Cohn < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > Having an accessible tree inspector would be of great advantage to my
> > sighted co-workers who are not very comfortable with a screen reader.
> Right
> > now they have to rely on my presence to check if what they did had any
> > effect.
> >
> > Is there a way to encourage this work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jonathan Cohn
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:24 AM Yura Zenevich < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all (first time poster). I help out with Firefox DevTools
> > accessibility
> > > and indeed we landed improvements to markup inspector some time last
> > year.
> > > We also made overall keyboard accessibility somewhat better. Though
> this
> > > year has been slower, we have a commitment to a high bar for Firefox
> > > DevTools accessibility this and next year. Later this year we are
> > planning
> > > on releasing Accessible tree inspector as part of our DevTools, for
> > > example. Expect to see a lot more next year!
> > > yura
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Beranek, Nicholas via WebAIM-Forum <
> > > <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > One of my colleagues really enjoys the accessibility improvements
> that
> > > > Firefox has made to its developer tools. He uses NVDA with it. He
> says
> > > that
> > > > they are very close to being made fully accessible, but he is able to
> > > > inspect code.
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> > > > Behalf Of Jim Homme
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:52 AM
> > > > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > > Subject: [WebAIM] The Accessibility of Browser-based Development
> > > > Environments
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I know that extensive work was done to make Firebug accessible. I
> > thought
> > > > I read that that work was brought into FFirefox itself. This prompted
> > me
> > > to
> > > > want to see if anyone who is blind here has either good experiences
> > with
> > > > the development tools in either the newest Firefox, the newest IE,
> > Edge,
> > > or
> > > > Chrome. I'm also wondering how Google is doing with Chrome
> > accessibility
> > > in
> > > > general, and how the screen reader venders are doing with closing the
> > gap
> > > > from their side, since Chrome seems to be very popular among sighted
> > > > vendors.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > =========> > > > Jim Homme,
> > > > Team Lead and Accessibility Consultant,
> > > > Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> > > > Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> > > > 412-787-8567 <(412)%20787-8567>,
> > > > <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > > > http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> > > > accessible-technology-solutions
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