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From: Sarah Ferguson
Date: Aug 8, 2017 8:50AM

Sorry, Ben. It's not live and is on a secured server.

Sarah Ferguson
Web Accessibility Specialist
Department of Digital Communications
Brandeis University *|* 781.736.4259
www.brandeis.edu/web-accessibility


On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Ben Regis < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi Sarah
>
> Is it possible to see the website?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 07 August 2017 20:44
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Trying to find middle ground with a developer
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have an outside developer working on one of our sites. I've done a
> review of the site and she's done a few rounds of fixes. We have a couple
> of sticking points.
>
> **Hamburger menu**
>
> The desktop site has a hamburger menu. VoiceOver is reading the menu as
> "*Navigation
> 3 items*." The open menu actually has 3 columns with 28 items total. You
> cannot currently navigate column to column, nor are the columns ever
> differentiated by Voiceover. It's read as one long list. To me, the user
> hears 3 items and expects 3 items. Getting 28 items at this point is
> confusing. Furthermore, I feel that someone having to backup through 28
> items to close a menu with the toggle that opened it, is asking a lot.
>
> I would be happy if it either announced 28 items and there was a way to
> close the menu without backing all the way up, or if the user could
> navigate column to column and drill into each column (at which point I feel
> VO should also read the correct number of items in each column). I've given
> her another of our sites that reads the actual number of items. It is also
> much shorter than 28 items, so closing the menu is less of an issue. She
> says that the code in that site is incorrect, so she won't follow it.
>
> The main navigation has a similar issue. It is reading as 1 item (being 1
> list with several items).
>
> *Do you think it is ok to have the navigation menus read the number of
> lists instead of the number of items? Any ideas for alternate solutions or
> examples of sites you feel handle hamburger menu very well?*
>
> ****
>
> **Image and caption**
>
> The second issue is the way she coded images with captions. Right now, she
> has coded the image and caption as a figure in HTML5. This is causing the
> "figure" (the image and caption together) to read the alt text, followed by
> hearing the alt text again for the image itself and then hearing the
> caption. I find this redundant. She argues it is better, because this
> tagging method identifies the caption as a caption and not just text. It
> links the image and caption together. I can see that point, but the
> redundancy still bothers me.
>
> *What are your thoughts? Do you know of any alternate solutions for making
> the caption and image be linked and label the caption as such, without the
> alt text reading twice?*
>
> ****
>
> Thanks!
> Sarah
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> Sarah
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