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Re: Site Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1

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From: Sandy Clark
Date: Jul 22, 2004 7:49AM

Not taken personally :)

My experience with the title attribute is that a)I
don't feel that the use of titles meet the WCAG guideline 13.1 of "link
text must be meaningful enough to make sense when read out of context" b)
not every screen reader is configured to read titles out of the box (or many of
them can be reconfigured to either read or
not read titles) so I can't be sure that it would even be read.

I don't think the maintenance of it is that difficult, mainly because most of what I would use it for is dynamically programmed
anyways. Its a technique, I've found effective, but if someone comes
up with a better way that will meet standards and work, then I'd love to hear
it.

Sandy Clark


From: julian.rickards
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004
9:33 AMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re: [WebAIM]
Site Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1

Don't
take this personally but I hate excessive markup for the purpose of applying
style such as a series of nested divs whose role is only to apply different
backgrounds to the same content. For example, the Onion Skinning technique
recently discussed at AListApart.com (<A
href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/onionskin/">http://www.alistapart.com/articles/onionskin/)
and this code below smacks of the same thing. It is a maintenance nightmare and
difficult for others who work with you or after you to maintain. Why
not simply use the Title attribute to add more information?
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jules
<FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff>-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards <FONT
face=Georgia color=#0000ff>A/Digitial Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication Services
Section, Ministry of Northern
Development and Mines, Vox:
705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: sllists
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:13
PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re: [WebAIM] Site
Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I tend to do this with the "training" link being visible
and the program name wrapped in a <;span
class="hidden">;<;/span>;. Unfortunately Jaws honors display:none
so that doesn't work
<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
size=2>.hidden{width:1px;position:absolute;left:0;top:-100px;height:1px;overflow:hidden;}


<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><;a href="">;Training <;span class="hidden">;for
Program<;/span>;<;/a>;