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From: Angela French
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 12:40PM
Subject: accessibility rule help please
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Hello,
I'm trying to find the guideline/checkpoint that makes the code below fail an accessibility check. The rules which says that two different links on a page can't have the same target.

<p>
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 1</a><br />
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 2</a><br />
</p>

I'm going nuts trying to find it. I tested my sameple page and it validated! I could have sworn this would fail an accessibility check.


Thanks!


Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
http://www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;

From: Evans, Donald (Contractor)
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 1:10PM
Subject: Re: accessibility rule help please
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It seems to be Technique 13.1.1
But I am having trouble finding the exact quote about unique link text there.

There is a reference under Link Text: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#link-text

"If more than one link on a page shares the same link text, all those links should point to the same resource. Such consistency will help page design as well as accessibility."

"If two or more links refer to different targets but share the same link text, distinguish the links by specifying a different value for the "title" attribute of each A element."

I believe it is a WCAG 1 Priority 2 requirement.



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Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility rule help please

Hello,
I'm trying to find the guideline/checkpoint that makes the code below fail an accessibility check. The rules which says that two different links on a page can't have the same target.

<p>
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 1</a><br />
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 2</a><br />
</p>

I'm going nuts trying to find it. I tested my sameple page and it validated! I could have sworn this would fail an accessibility check.


Thanks!


Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
http://www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;

From: Karl Groves
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 1:15PM
Subject: Re: accessibility rule help please
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Here ya go, Angela


WCAG 1.0 Priority 2
13.1 Clearly identify the target of each link.
NFB Certification
Links
WCAG 2.0 Level AAA
2.4.9 Link Purpose (Link Only)
KWCAG
3-2-4 - Ensure clarify target location for the each link


Karl



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Subject: [WebAIM] accessibility rule help please

Hello,
I'm trying to find the guideline/checkpoint that makes the code below fail an accessibility check. The rules which says that two different links on a page can't have the same target.

<p>
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 1</a><br />
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 2</a><br />
</p>

I'm going nuts trying to find it. I tested my sameple page and it validated! I could have sworn this would fail an accessibility check.


Thanks!


Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
http://www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;

From: Pamela Berman
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 1:20PM
Subject: Re: accessibility rule help please
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Angela,

I remember seeing a note in one of my validations a while back. It may have
been the other way round though where the link text was the same but the
targets were different.

<p>
<a href="http://weather.com">Link label example</a><br />
<a href="http://myweather.com">Link label example</a><br />
</p>

I can't remember but I did get feedback about it in the validation results.
This is from the W3C site:
Links with the same destination should have the same descriptions (per Success
Criterion 3.2.4<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#consistent-behavior-consistent-functionality>;),
but links with different purposes and destinations should have different
descriptions.

*3.2.4 Consistent Identification:* Components that have the same
functionality<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#samefunctionalitydef>;within
a set of Web
pages <http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#webpagedef>; are
identified consistently. (Level AA)

Maybe the validator has changed since I used it to test my pages.

Pam


On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Angela French < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm trying to find the guideline/checkpoint that makes the code below fail
> an accessibility check. The rules which says that two different links on a
> page can't have the same target.
>
> <p>
> <a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 1</a><br />
> <a href="http://weather.com">Link label example 2</a><br />
> </p>
>
> I'm going nuts trying to find it. I tested my sameple page and it
> validated! I could have sworn this would fail an accessibility check.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Angela French
> Internet Specialist
> State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> 360-704-4316
> http://www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;
>
>

From: Rachael A Zubal-Ruggieri
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 1:30PM
Subject: Re: accessibility rule help please
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It appears to me that you are using the same link (weather.com) with two different labels. This would definitely fail a simple accessibility check. Is there a reason why you would have two separate links to the same site?

From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 2:20PM
Subject: Re: accessibility rule help please
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Rachael A Zubal-Ruggieri wrote:
> It appears to me that you are using the same link (weather.com) with two different labels. This would definitely fail a simple accessibility check. Is there a reason why you would have two separate links to the same site?

Actually, it shouldn't. It's the opposite case, when two links have the
same text but go to different targets, that can cause the most confusion.

P
--
Patrick H. Lauke

From: Jared Smith
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 3:10PM
Subject: Re: accessibility rule help please
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The example given of two links to the same location with different
link texts is NOT a problem at all. Having two links with the same
link text to different locations IS a potential problem.

Imagine an article on the WebAIM site. Our logo (with alt text) is a
link to the homepage. If we applied this rule, it means that we could
not link to the homepage of our site from any article unless we used
the exact same text as the logo. Absurd!

On the other hand, if we had two links that read "home" and one went
to our homepage and another went to some other home page, then there
is some ambiguity as to what each of the links actually does and this
can cause problems.

Jared Smith
WebAIM