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From: Rick Hill
Date: Thu, Feb 07 2013 2:59PM
Subject: Hiding form labels with display:none?
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From: lauracornwell
Date: Thu, Feb 07 2013 3:14PM
Subject: Re: Hiding form labels with display:none?
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i have some thing that i want to know is radio stayshions web sites
cuverd by the ada lall

On 2/7/2013 3:59 PM, Rick Hill wrote:
> For as long as I have been involved with Web accessibility, I still stumble across "simple" things that I feel I should have know.
>
> My take on hiding Web content from sited users but making available for screen users has been to use one of the CSS techniques âEUR¦ but never user display:none caused that hides it form everyone. Now I find that many/most/all assistive technology )or tat least popular screen readers) WILL announce a form label even if hidden using display:none!
>
> So, is this just a customary developmental thing (like D links used to be before wider adoption of longdesc) or is there and actual AT guideline in WCA 2 that says display:none hides from all users and media types âEUR¦ except for form labels?
>
> I'm still of the opinion that using display"none for this purpose is not a best practice. Am I mistaken?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rick Hill, Web CMS Administrator
> University Communications, UC Davis
> (530) 752-9612
> http://cms.ucdavis.edu
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Web CMS assistance at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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>
> > >

From: Rick Hill
Date: Mon, Feb 11 2013 5:01PM
Subject: Re: Again: Hiding form labels with display:none?
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From: dinesh.kaushal@wipro.com
Date: Mon, Feb 11 2013 9:20PM
Subject: Re: Again: Hiding form labels with display:none?
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From: James Nurthen
Date: Mon, Feb 11 2013 11:14PM
Subject: Re: Again: Hiding form labels with display:none?
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Hopefully off-screen labels for form fields will disappear now we can use
aria-label to accomplish the same thing. They were always a hack and now
there is a suitable replacement we should stop using them.

Regards,
James

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I think putting content off screen is so wide spread that we must work to
> make it a standard either by adding an attribute in html like
> offscreen="true" or by adding css display:offscreen
>
>
>
> With warm regards
> Dinesh Kaushal
> Technical Lead |Information Systems – MyWipro | Accessibility
> PMI Certified Associate Project Manager
> Mobile: 9900096374
> Blog: http://dineshkaushal.blogspot.com
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Rick Hill
> Sent: 12 February 2013 05:31 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] Again: Hiding form labels with display:none?
>
> Surprised I didn't even get a nibble on this one. So I'll try again (with
> fewer typos):
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> For as long as I have been involved with Web accessibility, I still
> stumble across "simple" things that I feel I should have know.
>
> My take on hiding Web content from sighted users but making it available
> for screen users has been to use one of the CSS techniques … but never
> display:none because that hides it from everyone.
>
> Now I find that many/most/all assistive technology (or at least popular
> screen readers) WILL announce a form label even if hidden using
> display:none!
>
> So, is this just a customary thing (like D links used to be before wider
> adoption of longdesc) or is there an actual AT guideline in WCAG 2 that
> says display:none hides from all users and media types … except for form
> labels?
>
> I'm still of the opinion that using display:none for this purpose is not a
> best practice. Am I mistaken?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rick Hill, Web CMS Administrator
> University Communications, UC Davis
>
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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2013 8:55AM
Subject: Re: Again: Hiding form labels with display:none?
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