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From: JP Jamous
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 7:14AM
Subject: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Hi Folks,



I need to buy DNS to manually test web pages and basic Windows applications
as people with disabilities use it. Will this Premium version be ample for
what I need?

http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/premium-versi
on/index.htm



I don't need the Pro and pick legal or any other profession. I just want the
one that those with limited keyboard or mouse access use to control their
Windows environment and the Web.



I also will be using DNS with JAWS 18. Do I have to do any preconfigurations
or simply install DNS and I am good to go?

From: Joy Relton
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 8:36AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Hi, That version of Dragon is fine but you need J-Say in order to use JAWS
with Dragon. I.e. speech input and speech output working together. If your
purpose for buying it is to confirm that speech recognition works and you do
not need to use JAWS, then you should be fine. J-Say is available at
http://www.hartgen.org/




From: JP Jamous
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 9:07AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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I will actually need J-Say since I am totally blind. It will help me identify if DNS is working as it should while I perform manual testing of web pages.

Thank you so much for the information. I will research J-Say and run everything in a virtual machine before I install it on my production machine.

From: Aaron Cannon
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 11:27AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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I wouldn't buy J-Say until you're sure you need it. I've managed to
use Dragon 15 for dictation without it with few problems. However,
when it comes to browsing the web, YMMV, as I haven't tried it for
that.

Luck.

Aaron

On 1/16/17, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I will actually need J-Say since I am totally blind. It will help me
> identify if DNS is working as it should while I perform manual testing of
> web pages.
>
> Thank you so much for the information. I will research J-Say and run
> everything in a virtual machine before I install it on my production
> machine.
>
>

From: Michael Burks
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 12:17PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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All,
Last I checked Dragon works well with ZoomText.  Since the screen reader that comes with ZoomText is not too smart this is a good way to  test with two types of AT.
Sincerely,
Mike Burks

From: Joy Relton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Dragon Naturally Speaking

Hi, That version of Dragon is fine but you need J-Say in order to use JAWS
with Dragon. I.e. speech input and speech output working together. If your
purpose for buying it is to confirm that speech recognition works and you do
not need to use JAWS, then you should be fine. J-Say is available at
http://www.hartgen.org/




From: Joy Relton
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 1:16PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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I also note that work is being done to allow the Windows speech recognition
program to work with some screen readers as well as working to get Dragon
and NVDA to work together. I cannot vouch for any of the work or
functionality with the newer efforts

Check this reference for starters.

http://dictationbridge.com/

From: Sean Murphy
Date: Mon, Jan 16 2017 4:57PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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DNS will work with jaws out of the box. But i would suggest looking at jsay to get the full experience. If you decide to use dns with jaws on a mlre permanent bases, then look at the other product that jsay provides as it work fully with jaws and allows you to issue jaws commands by saying them

I only use dns home for my testing

Sean

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> On 17 Jan 2017, at 12:14 am, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> I need to buy DNS to manually test web pages and basic Windows applications
> as people with disabilities use it. Will this Premium version be ample for
> what I need?
>
> http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/premium-versi
> on/index.htm
>
>
>
> I don't need the Pro and pick legal or any other profession. I just want the
> one that those with limited keyboard or mouse access use to control their
> Windows environment and the Web.
>
>
>
> I also will be using DNS with JAWS 18. Do I have to do any preconfigurations
> or simply install DNS and I am good to go?
>
> > > >

From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 3:40AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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That's going to be my primary goal is testing with DNS. I wouldn't want to sound stupid before my teams, while talking to a machine. LOL. Just kidding.

I am so used to using JAWS with a keyboard that I would slow down if I want to say out loud the shortcut keys of JAWS.

From: Joy Relton
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 5:11AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Actually, that is not how J-Say and Jaws and Dragon work. You can give a
simple command such as "move down, select that" and this happens. J-Say
interacts with the two programs so that you have confirmation that what you
desire to happen on the screen happened. The purpose of using Dragon is to
negate the need for a keyboard. A Braille display driven by JAWS works
nicely in this configuration as well. There are similarities to the commands
used with Siri. There is also a function which allows you to dictate
something into a text box or clipboard, spell-check and otherwise edit it.
Then you can copy and paste the information in to the document. If you are
blind or visually impaired demonstrating Dragon without JAWS and J-Say would
not be a satisfactory experience for anyone.

From: Joy Relton
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 5:33AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Hi Aaron,

I am still using Dragon 13. I am still working to get web browsing to work
but it's having time to do it. I am using it on Windows 10 and having no
problems. My motivator was the presence of carpel tunnel syndrome. I am
encouraged that other screen readers are starting to be explored. I also
want to encourage people to go through the analysis process you did before
buying anything, "What will I be using it for, and do I really need...?".

From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 6:29AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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I bought the 13 premium as I would just need it for testing. I did call the company first and spoke to their sales people to ensure that was the latest upgrade and it did what I needed it to do.

From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 6:31AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Thank you for this valuable knowledge. I am sure it will be a pretty interesting experience once I get it today.

From: Joy Relton
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 10:45AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Good luck. Brian Hartgen, of Hartgen Consultancy is a terrific guy. There is
a number in the U.S. to call and he responds quite quickly. Also prompt via
email. My experience getting tech support from Nuance for Dragon is very
bad.

From: Joy Relton
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 10:47AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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This is a good decision on your part, I think, because the later version has
some issues with J-Say. I'm not sure what they are and I know that they are
writing a patch.

Best of luck to.



From: Aaron Cannon
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 2:06PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Someone's confused. It's probably me, but the latest version of
Dragon is Dragon 15.

http://www.nuance.com/for-business/by-product/dragon/dragon-for-the-pc/dragon-professional-individual/index.htm

Aaron

On 1/17/17, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I bought the 13 premium as I would just need it for testing. I did call the
> company first and spoke to their sales people to ensure that was the latest
> upgrade and it did what I needed it to do.
>
>

From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 2:18PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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You are correct, but lots of retail stores are still selling 13. 13 also works with Windows 10 as recommended by the manufacturer.

From: Aaron Cannon
Date: Tue, Jan 17 2017 2:25PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Ok. Just wanted to make sure you knew it was not the latest version.

I'll be quite curious to hear how it goes.

Aaron

On 1/17/17, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> You are correct, but lots of retail stores are still selling 13. 13 also
> works with Windows 10 as recommended by the manufacturer.
>
>

From: Joy Relton
Date: Wed, Jan 18 2017 5:46AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Hi, I can vouch for the fact that it works with Windows 10, JAWS 18, and
J-Say 13. There is an upcoming patch which should make it work better with
Dragon 15 but the functionality added, as I understand is not that
significant for most users. Best of luck.

From: _mallory
Date: Wed, Jan 18 2017 6:18AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Actually DictationBridge is looking to release its first public beta this
week. But, it is a Beta. Something to look into if you're interested, but
it's more oriented to work with NVDA currently.

cheers,
_mallory

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 03:16:12PM -0500, Joy Relton wrote:
> I also note that work is being done to allow the Windows speech recognition
> program to work with some screen readers as well as working to get Dragon
> and NVDA to work together. I cannot vouch for any of the work or
> functionality with the newer efforts
>
> Check this reference for starters.
>
> http://dictationbridge.com/
>
>

From: Joy Relton
Date: Wed, Jan 18 2017 6:30AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
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Thanks. I need to work with NVDA more than I currently do. I've used JAWS
since version 4.0 and I am very accustomed to its logic and keystrokes. I'm
not quite syncing with NVDA yet.