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From: Robinson, Norman B - Washington, DC
Date: Tue, Feb 01 2005 1:48PM
Subject: Re: Talking web browser? (emulation)
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Chetz,
I stumbled across the "Fangs Screen Reader Emulator" for Firefox that
you may be interested in as well:
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=402&os=Wind
ows&application=firefox&version=1.0&go=Go
Please note that it is under development and the latest version can be
found on SourceForge at the following URL:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fangs This may enable your students to
experience 'what it is like' and perhaps even participate in creating a
better tool for everyone.
Regards,
Norman B. Robinson
Section 508 Coordinator
IT Governance, US Postal Service
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From: c.colwell [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:23 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] Talking web browser?
Hi,
Does anyone know of a talking (self-voicing) browser that is not
dependent on Internet Explorer? A colleague is looking for a tool that
could be used on a design course to easily enable students to experience
what it is like browsing the web while using a screenreader. The course
used to use WeMedia, and found this very good, but it is no longer
supported.
We have considered Webbie and Home Page Reader, but both of these
integrate with IE, and we cannot expect our students to have this
browser.
Any suggestions would be gratefully received!
Regards,
Chetz
Dr Chetz Colwell
Accessibility in Educational Media group
Institute of Educational Technology
The Open University
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From: Stephanie Sullivan
Date: Tue, Feb 01 2005 11:46PM
Subject: Re: Talking web browser? (emulation)
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On 2/1/05 3:47 PM, "norman.b.robinson" simply typed the following:
> I stumbled across the "Fangs Screen Reader Emulator" for Firefox that
> you may be interested in as well:
> https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=402&os=Wind
> ows&application=firefox&version=1.0&go=Go
Fangs doesn't speak though, right? I have had it installed and I view with
it... But was unaware of a way to make it speak. If there is one, please
enlighten me. I would love to do that. :)
Stephanie Sullivan
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--Albert Einstein
From: Robinson, Norman B - Washington, DC
Date: Wed, Feb 02 2005 7:02AM
Subject: Re: Talking web browser? (emulation)
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No, it doesn't speak. But it does do a fair job (considering it's age, a
great job) of simulating what would be spoken by a screen reader.
My reason for suggesting it was as a teaching aid, not as a replacement
for a screen reader. By-the-way, I find that having the text version of
what might be audible makes for easier translation when composing
emails. Normally I might describe what a screen reader produces in
writing (email) in trying to get a end-user to understand why
reorganizing their web content might be a good idea. Fangs helps me do
just that and anything it 'misses' is easily discovered by using the
actual screen reader.
Regards,
Norman B. Robinson
Section 508 Coordinator
IT Governance, US Postal Service
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From: design [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Talking web browser? (emulation)
On 2/1/05 3:47 PM, "norman.b.robinson" simply typed the following:
> I stumbled across the "Fangs Screen Reader Emulator" for Firefox that
> you may be interested in as well:
> https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=402&os=Wi
> nd
> ows&application=firefox&version=1.0&go=Go
Fangs doesn't speak though, right? I have had it installed and I view
with it... But was unaware of a way to make it speak. If there is one,
please enlighten me. I would love to do that. :)
Stephanie Sullivan
Community MX Partner :: http://www.communitymx.com/author.cfm?cid=1008
Team Macromedia for Dreamweaver :: http://tinyurl.com/6huw3 Co-Author .:
"Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004 Magic" :. New Riders VioletSky Design ::
http://www.violetsky.net
"A mind once stretched by new thoughts can never regain its original
shape." --Albert Einstein
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From: Austin, Darrel
Date: Wed, Feb 02 2005 8:15AM
Subject: Re: Talking web browser? (emulation)
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> Fangs doesn't speak though, right? I have had it installed and I view
> with it... But was unaware of a way to make it speak. If there is
> one, please enlighten me. I would love to do that. :)
If you are running OSX, you can just cut and past the FANGS output into
textEdit and have OSX read it to you outloud.
-Darrel
From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Wed, Feb 02 2005 11:13AM
Subject: Re: Talking web browser? (emulation)
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darrel.austin wrote:
> If you are running OSX, you can just cut and past the FANGS output into
> textEdit and have OSX read it to you outloud.
On Windows, you can combine FANGS with Foxyvoice
http://foxyvoice.kenche.info/
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From: Maximillian Schwanekamp
Date: Thu, Feb 03 2005 11:16PM
Subject: Re: Talking web browser? (emulation)
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redux wrote:
> On Windows, you can combine FANGS with Foxyvoice
> http://foxyvoice.kenche.info/
Thanks for the recommendation for Foxyvoice! It works, although the
default "Microsoft Sam" voice is a bit primitive; However I found that
you can download the MSSAPI SDK (68MB)[0] and get additional voices -
"Microsoft Mike" and "Microsoft Mary" are somewhat clearer. This, with
Foxyvoice, gives (for me anyway) the best linearized text-to-speech
picture yet of my sites. FANGS is good too, as it emulates the Links
and Headings lists in screenreader software.
I was not able to get Foxyvoice to read FANGS output, but they're still
good free tools for this.
[0] http://www.microsoft.com/speech/download/sdk51/
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