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Thread: Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
Number of posts in this thread: 4 (In chronological order)
From: Rick Hill
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2013 1:06PM
Subject: Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2013 4:15PM
Subject: Re: Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
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On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
It's important to note that visual layout, styling, and resolution
considerations have little to no impact on screen reader and keyboard
accessibility.
I greatly disagree with this remark. Simply doing the following will have a
bad effect on keyboard accessibility
*:focus{outline:0;}
without adding supplemental CSS, nobody using a keyboard will know where
they are unless they are in text fields.
--
Ryan E. Benson
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> It's important to note that visual layout, styling, and resolution
> considerations have little to no impact on screen reader and keyboard
> accessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Petri" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> The Web Experience Toolkit has a framework/template for responsive design
> that has accessibility as a specific goal:
> http://wet-boew.github.com/wet-boew/demos/index-eng.html
>
> One place that is potentially problematic with a responsive design is the
> menu system. If the menus are items in a single-level unordered list and
> all the responsive design is doing is stacking them at a smaller screen
> resolution, there probably will be no issues. As the menus get deeper and
> more complex, though, you have to come up with different strategies for how
> to handle deep menus on a small screen. There are lots of possibilities.
> Here is a good overview:
>
> http://bradfrostweb.com/blog/web/complex-navigation-patterns-for-responsive-design/
>
> It's probably pretty clear with which of these you could run into
> accessibility issues. Keeping it simple is probably the best bet -- for
> example, if there are dropdowns at full width, then consider setting
> sub-menus to display:none and just creating a stack of top-level items when
> the resolutions get mobile width. But there are other approaches that can
> be pretty accessible (try the WET's mega menus at a narrow resolution for
> example...).
>
> In general, though, accessibility isn't going to suffer with a responsive
> design. It's the same elements, just differently laid out/stacked. And so
> long as you're keeping the visual hierarchy clear (no squeezing out of
> white space or goofy-large headings), then accessibility should be just as
> good as what was achieved at "desktop" widge/scale.
>
> ken
> --
> Ken Petri
> Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Bryan Garaventa <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > You are welcome to use AccDC at
> > http://whatsock.com/
> > if you wish.
> >
> > Which includes scalable functionality templates for lightboxes, banners,
> > tooltips, popups, tabs, menus, tree controls, keyboard and screen reader
> > accessible drag and drop, auto suggestion fields, sortable listboxes,
> > footnote generation, live chat, sliders, calendar pickers, accordions,
> > carousels, slideshows, and wizards.
> >
> > All of which have been fully tested to ensure screen reader and keyboard
> > accessibility using accurate markup specifications.
> >
> > Plus AccDC can be used to build anything else that you can imagine, and
> > it's
> > free.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Hill" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
> >
> >
> > I'll try again:
> >
> > We are about to embark on upgrading our site(s) to a responsive design. I
> > was wondering what resources (if any) exist that discuss the
> accessibility
> > of responsive deigns, pro and con. Also, any techniques that can be used
> > to
> > make a responsive Web site more accessible?
> >
> > Rick Hill, Web CMS Administrator
> > University Communications, UC Davis
> > (530) 752-9612
> > http://cms.ucdavis.edu
> >
> > Web CMS assistance at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2013 4:40PM
Subject: Re: Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
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True, I was actually referring to textual equivalents however, for screen
reader support. I should have made that clearer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan E. Benson" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
It's important to note that visual layout, styling, and resolution
considerations have little to no impact on screen reader and keyboard
accessibility.
I greatly disagree with this remark. Simply doing the following will have a
bad effect on keyboard accessibility
*:focus{outline:0;}
without adding supplemental CSS, nobody using a keyboard will know where
they are unless they are in text fields.
--
Ryan E. Benson
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> It's important to note that visual layout, styling, and resolution
> considerations have little to no impact on screen reader and keyboard
> accessibility.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Petri" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> The Web Experience Toolkit has a framework/template for responsive design
> that has accessibility as a specific goal:
> http://wet-boew.github.com/wet-boew/demos/index-eng.html
>
> One place that is potentially problematic with a responsive design is the
> menu system. If the menus are items in a single-level unordered list and
> all the responsive design is doing is stacking them at a smaller screen
> resolution, there probably will be no issues. As the menus get deeper and
> more complex, though, you have to come up with different strategies for
> how
> to handle deep menus on a small screen. There are lots of possibilities.
> Here is a good overview:
>
> http://bradfrostweb.com/blog/web/complex-navigation-patterns-for-responsive-design/
>
> It's probably pretty clear with which of these you could run into
> accessibility issues. Keeping it simple is probably the best bet -- for
> example, if there are dropdowns at full width, then consider setting
> sub-menus to display:none and just creating a stack of top-level items
> when
> the resolutions get mobile width. But there are other approaches that can
> be pretty accessible (try the WET's mega menus at a narrow resolution for
> example...).
>
> In general, though, accessibility isn't going to suffer with a responsive
> design. It's the same elements, just differently laid out/stacked. And so
> long as you're keeping the visual hierarchy clear (no squeezing out of
> white space or goofy-large headings), then accessibility should be just as
> good as what was achieved at "desktop" widge/scale.
>
> ken
> --
> Ken Petri
> Program Director, OSU Web Accessibility Center
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Bryan Garaventa <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > You are welcome to use AccDC at
> > http://whatsock.com/
> > if you wish.
> >
> > Which includes scalable functionality templates for lightboxes, banners,
> > tooltips, popups, tabs, menus, tree controls, keyboard and screen reader
> > accessible drag and drop, auto suggestion fields, sortable listboxes,
> > footnote generation, live chat, sliders, calendar pickers, accordions,
> > carousels, slideshows, and wizards.
> >
> > All of which have been fully tested to ensure screen reader and keyboard
> > accessibility using accurate markup specifications.
> >
> > Plus AccDC can be used to build anything else that you can imagine, and
> > it's
> > free.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Hill" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
> >
> >
> > I'll try again:
> >
> > We are about to embark on upgrading our site(s) to a responsive design.
> > I
> > was wondering what resources (if any) exist that discuss the
> accessibility
> > of responsive deigns, pro and con. Also, any techniques that can be used
> > to
> > make a responsive Web site more accessible?
> >
> > Rick Hill, Web CMS Administrator
> > University Communications, UC Davis
> > (530) 752-9612
> > http://cms.ucdavis.edu
> >
> > Web CMS assistance at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2013 4:47PM
Subject: Re: Responsive Web Design and Accessibility?
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