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From: Akshi Kakar
Date: Tue, Mar 05 2013 1:03PM
Subject: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5
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What program should I use to preview today's topics?



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From: Bronwyn Lapham
Date: Wed, Mar 06 2013 6:32PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 96, Issue 6
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Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc.

Thanks Jennifer, your contribution of those links is perfectly timed. :)


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> 1. Re: Keyboard Shortcuts (Akshi Kakar)
> 2. Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 (Akshi Kakar)
> 3. Color contrast ratio for non-text content (Ramya Sethuraman)
> 4. Re: Color contrast ratio for non-text content (Jared Smith)
> 5. Re: Color contrast ratio for non-text content (Ramya Sethuraman)
> 6. Testing mobile versions of websites for accessibility
> (Nancy Johnson)
> 7. Re: Aria roles instead of headings? (Don Mauck)
> 8. Re: Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc.
> (Jennifer Sutton)
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> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:03:05 +0000
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard Shortcuts
> Would it be a good idea to use a letter instead of SPACE like gmail uses
> g? We cannot use a letter because we also have answer fields where students
> can enter text.
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> Best regards,
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> Akshi
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> From: Pradip Chandra Sikdar [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard Shortcuts
>
> "Space" is used in different purposes in the web application. for example,
> in most of the screen readers, "space" activates the link.
> so, I think, you should avoid "space".
> On 3/5/2013 10:26 PM, Akshi Kakar wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been creating keyboard shortcuts for a web application that also
> uses answer fields. In doing so, we have used SPACE to activate the
> accesskey such that every shortcut is a combination of 'SPACE then [a
> letter]'.
> >
> > Is it a good idea to use SPACE with letters for shortcuts? We were also
> hoping to run these shortcuts by an expert or a user with disabilities to
> ensure that what we have created are easy-to-use for all. Do you know of
> experts in the field who could verify these keyboard shortcuts?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Akshi
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> Pradip Chandra Sikdar
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5
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> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:12:58 -0800
> Subject: [WebAIM] Color contrast ratio for non-text content
> Hi,
>
> Is there a minimum color contrast ratio for non-text content (icons, image
> buttons without text etc) that a user can click to take some action?
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> Thanks!
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> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:19:09 -0700
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Color contrast ratio for non-text content
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ramya Sethuraman wrote:
> > Is there a minimum color contrast ratio for non-text content (icons,
> image
> > buttons without text etc) that a user can click to take some action?
>
> WCAG only specifies contrast requirements for text and images of text.
> Clearly users need adequate contrast for non-text interactive items
> also. I think the WCAG level AA ratios (4.5:1 or 3:1 if it's a heavy
> set graphic) provide a pretty good threshold for such things.
>
> Jared
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> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:06:51 -0800
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Color contrast ratio for non-text content
> Thanks Jared.
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Jared Smith < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ramya Sethuraman wrote:
> > > Is there a minimum color contrast ratio for non-text content (icons,
> > image
> > > buttons without text etc) that a user can click to take some action?
> >
> > WCAG only specifies contrast requirements for text and images of text.
> > Clearly users need adequate contrast for non-text interactive items
> > also. I think the WCAG level AA ratios (4.5:1 or 3:1 if it's a heavy
> > set graphic) provide a pretty good threshold for such things.
> >
> > Jared
> > > > > > > >
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Testing mobile versions of websites for accessibility
> I am testing for some sites for accessibility and came across two that
> have been optimized for mobile or have a mobile version.
> Are there any tools out there yet? What is the best way to test?
>
> One is an older text base site with a search box and select box
> The other was optimized using Modernizr.js and has carousels and
> other interactive elements that may not be accessible on the desktop
> version
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> Thanks,
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> Nancy Johnson
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> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:17:08 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Aria roles instead of headings?
> I only disagree with the H1 heading, I think it should reflect the title
> of the page and that any main content could also start with an H1. As far
> as having a preference, I think that at the end of the day when landmarks
> are used correctly, they are different than headings and that the proper
> use of both will have great benefit.
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> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:03 PM
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> Oh, did not seen Jared's post before posting.
> Basically, if you can do both (landmark and a heading), it's always
> good (I just conducted a study with my colleague on the habits of
> screen reader users, 70%of them know off, and navigate by, headings,
> but only 32% know off landmarks, even fewer use them for navigation,
> we hope this will change with better user training and more widespread
> use of structural elements).
> I'd use a form rather than a search role for the landmark up there
> myself, but feel free to do whatever seems most appropriate.
> Again, h1 should not be the first heading on a page, in my opinion, it
> should designate the main section of the page. If something preceeds
> it, fine, especially when it ismarked up with a higher level heading.
> -B
>
> On 3/4/13, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > There is no way to move the search form further down in html order,
> > but use CSS to keep positioning it where it is?
> > This idea seems just fine, but it's also good to mark it up with a
> > heading. That would be ideal. I think people generally don't expect a
> > search form to be on top of the page they are looking at.
> >
> > You can also do this "invissibly" via aria.
> > Simply put a div around a paragraph, link, or whatever form element
> > could serve as a heading and add the code:
> > ... <div role="heading" level="x"> ... where x is a value from 1 to 6,
> > i.e. the level heading you want to appear there.
> > This way you can create a heading as far as assistive technologies are
> > concerned, without affecting your layout or vissible structure at all
> > (the browser tells A.T. there is a heading there, but it does not
> > display it as a heading or anything).
> > You could even make the text inside the heading a paragraph which is
> > positioned off-screen with CSS, if necessary, thus creating anentirely
> > invissible heading, if that helps.
> > HTH
> > -B
> >
> > On 3/4/13, Christian Biggins < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> We use a 'skeleton' design for all our sites with some basic elements
> >> marked up in a specific way to aide in quicker development. Its a little
> >> tricky to move too many of these elements but changes can be made.
> >>
> >> One problem is the markup of our search form. It usually sits above the
> >> page title (h1) and has been marked up incorrectly with an h2 for the
> >> search form title. But, because of its position, we can't move it down
> >> under the h1, nor can we make it an h1, because its not.
> >>
> >> My question is, is it acceptable to wrap the form with a div containing
> >> the
> >> role 'search' or even give them 'form' tag the 'role' attribute of
> >> 'search'
> >> rather than having a heading at all up there?
> >>
> >> Any opinions, thoughts etc would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Christian Biggins <http://about.me/cbiggins>;
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> > > >
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> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:44:14 -0800
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Q: accessibility for ebooks, epubs, kindles, etc.
> Greetings, WebAIM:
>
> I thought I'd post four more items on this subject of ebooks/ePub, and
> then, I'll stop.
>
> But I think these are valuable additions to what I posted the other day.
>
> I hope those working on HTML5, CSS, etc. will especially take note of the
> summary of the recent W3C workshop and help to foster standards
> harmonization.
>
> Links below my name.
>
> Best,
> Jennifer
>
>
> eBooks: Great Expectations - A W3C Workshop on Electronic Books and Open
> Web Platform - 11-12 February 2013
> http://www.w3.org/2012/08/**electronic-books/rapportebook.**html<http://www.w3.org/2012/08/electronic-books/rapportebook.html>;
>
> Rich multi-media and a web of devices is driving us to a world of
> standards - Tools of Change for Publishing
> http://toc.oreilly.com/2013/**02/rich-multi-media-and-a-web-**
> of-devices-is-driving-us-to-a-**world-of-standards.html<http://toc.oreilly.com/2013/02/rich-multi-media-and-a-web-of-devices-is-driving-us-to-a-world-of-standards.html>;
>
> EPUB 3 demo/sample files wanted:
> http://t.co/mg4VgsyVUj
>
> This article focuses on a conference held in the UK
> ebooks and accessibility; "readable with eyes, ears and fingers" |
> atis4all | Scoop.it
> http://ebookscambridge.**wordpress.com/2013/02/21/**
> ebooks-and-accessibility-**readable-with-eyes-ears-and-**fingers/<http://ebookscambridge.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/ebooks-and-accessibility-readable-with-eyes-ears-and-fingers/>;
>
>
>
> > > >
>

From: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Date: Mon, Mar 18 2013 1:08PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 96, Issue 16
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You may want to check with Toni Calzone, of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA)<http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/>;. She has worked extensively with the Filemaker vendor or developers directly, from what I understand, to ensure that new releases would be fully accessible (and Section 508-conformant. Toni's email address is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > or = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >

Gary M. Morin, Program Analyst
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Looking for Training: AT100 - Section 508 Electronic & IT Training - Phase II

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