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From: James Bailey
Date: Wed, May 04 2016 11:26AM
Subject: Maps
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Hello All,

I am encountering web pages or PDFs that include maps. And these are detailed maps of several blocks of campus or sports events and I am at a loss to as to how make them accessible. A few colleagues have offered ideas, but I need to see some completed examples. I searched this list on "map" and got no returns. An example map may be seen (this is not an accessible version) at http://adaptive-tech.uoregon.edu/map_example.pdf

Thank in advance.

James
--
James Bailey M.S.
Associate Director
Accessible Education Center
University of Oregon

From: Pamela Riesmeyer
Date: Wed, May 04 2016 11:36AM
Subject: Re: Maps
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I don't know if this is a good approach, but we decided to add text
versions to our campus map PDF as supplemental pages.

So, for the example you sent, we would identify where the stadium is, then
where each section or area of interest is, relative to the others and to
the boundary streets, etc.

We approached this as if we were giving someone directions over the phone -
again, not sure if it is the best approach, but...
--
Pamela Riesmeyer
Web Accessibility Coordinator
Purdue University Northwest
Calumet Campus


On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM, James Bailey < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am encountering web pages or PDFs that include maps. And these are
> detailed maps of several blocks of campus or sports events and I am at a
> loss to as to how make them accessible. A few colleagues have offered
> ideas, but I need to see some completed examples. I searched this list on
> "map" and got no returns. An example map may be seen (this is not an
> accessible version) at http://adaptive-tech.uoregon.edu/map_example.pdf
>
> Thank in advance.
>
> James
> --
> James Bailey M.S.
> Associate Director
> Accessible Education Center
> University of Oregon
>
>
>
> > > > >

From: L Snider
Date: Wed, May 04 2016 11:41AM
Subject: Re: Maps
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I really like the idea Pamela mentioned, as it helps everyone...I have
found that sometimes I can't read the map because the thing is too small
(even after zooming), so the text gives me some way to figure out how to
get places or know where they are-especially on mobile or tablet where the
screen is small.

I am sure others will add, but this text area is a welcome addition for all
viewers (like me!).

Cheers

Lisa

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Pamela Riesmeyer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I don't know if this is a good approach, but we decided to add text
> versions to our campus map PDF as supplemental pages.
>
> So, for the example you sent, we would identify where the stadium is, then
> where each section or area of interest is, relative to the others and to
> the boundary streets, etc.
>
> We approached this as if we were giving someone directions over the phone -
> again, not sure if it is the best approach, but...
> --
> Pamela Riesmeyer
> Web Accessibility Coordinator
> Purdue University Northwest
> Calumet Campus
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM, James Bailey < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I am encountering web pages or PDFs that include maps. And these are
> > detailed maps of several blocks of campus or sports events and I am at a
> > loss to as to how make them accessible. A few colleagues have offered
> > ideas, but I need to see some completed examples. I searched this list on
> > "map" and got no returns. An example map may be seen (this is not an
> > accessible version) at http://adaptive-tech.uoregon.edu/map_example.pdf
> >
> > Thank in advance.
> >
> > James
> > --
> > James Bailey M.S.
> > Associate Director
> > Accessible Education Center
> > University of Oregon
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

From: Jim Allan
Date: Wed, May 04 2016 2:30PM
Subject: Re: Maps
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maps.google.com
you can get generated walking directions
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/2400+Guadalupe+St,+Austin,+TX+78705/UT+Darrell+K+Royal-Texas+Memorial+Stadium+-+Red+McCombs+Red+Zone,+Austin,+TX/@30.2873676,-97.7392205,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8644b57807fd77eb:0xd00cf484f084511d!2m2!1d-97.7417024!2d30.2881238!1m5!1m1!1s0x8644b59a5ef97363:0x39c0803dfefc56a5!2m2!1d-97.7323506!2d30.2849094!3e2

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:41 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I really like the idea Pamela mentioned, as it helps everyone...I have
> found that sometimes I can't read the map because the thing is too small
> (even after zooming), so the text gives me some way to figure out how to
> get places or know where they are-especially on mobile or tablet where the
> screen is small.
>
> I am sure others will add, but this text area is a welcome addition for all
> viewers (like me!).
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Pamela Riesmeyer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > I don't know if this is a good approach, but we decided to add text
> > versions to our campus map PDF as supplemental pages.
> >
> > So, for the example you sent, we would identify where the stadium is,
> then
> > where each section or area of interest is, relative to the others and to
> > the boundary streets, etc.
> >
> > We approached this as if we were giving someone directions over the
> phone -
> > again, not sure if it is the best approach, but...
> > --
> > Pamela Riesmeyer
> > Web Accessibility Coordinator
> > Purdue University Northwest
> > Calumet Campus
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM, James Bailey < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I am encountering web pages or PDFs that include maps. And these are
> > > detailed maps of several blocks of campus or sports events and I am at
> a
> > > loss to as to how make them accessible. A few colleagues have offered
> > > ideas, but I need to see some completed examples. I searched this list
> on
> > > "map" and got no returns. An example map may be seen (this is not an
> > > accessible version) at
> http://adaptive-tech.uoregon.edu/map_example.pdf
> > >
> > > Thank in advance.
> > >
> > > James
> > > --
> > > James Bailey M.S.
> > > Associate Director
> > > Accessible Education Center
> > > University of Oregon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >



--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964

From: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Date: Thu, May 05 2016 7:14AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Maps - Best Practices
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As a speech recognition software (Dragon NaturallySpeaking), imitating the mouse and keyboard are extremely difficult when encountering interactive maps. Yes, I can see a map visually but if I want to zoom in or select specific building or location on a map to then navigate to that specific information, I'm up a creak. It MIGHT be that the building, for instance, is a clickable icon on the map, but what is the command for it? Do I need to know what the alt-text is in order to tell Dragon "Click Main Building" or "Click Residence Hall A"? if there is no legend or glossary, which has to map to the alt-text and to the computer/web command line, I would have to spend all day guessing what the label for each location is. Similarly, in online training, I've tried "Click Next" to go from one screen to another, because the arrow on-screen was visually labeled Next; turns out that the code was Forward - I had to somehow know to tell Dragon "Click Forward".

Accessibility - and assistive technology - is not just about vision loss.


Gary M. Morin, Program Analyst
NIH Office of the Chief Information Officer

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Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.

WHAT IF THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASKED WAS, "WHAT IS SO UNIQUE ABOUT THIS SITUATION THAT IT JUSTIFIES EXCLUSION? INSTEAD OF, "HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE?


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From: _mallory [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 3:06 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Maps - Best Practices

Yeah, another large part of map accessibility is working with keyboard and keyboard-imitating AT, for example.

_mallory

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 11:41:36PM +0200, Olaf Drümmer wrote:
> > On 03.05.2016, at 16:30, Brian Lovely < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > That seems like a real challenge. It may be that, rather than attempt to make a map accessible, communicate the information that the map is supposed to convey in the context of the page. For instance, if it is a map of a city showing surrounding towns, you could list the names of the towns and their distance from the city.
>
> isn't this advice specific to accommodation of vision impairments?
>
> Olaf
>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>