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From: Elizabeth Pyatt
Date: Thu, May 19 2016 8:56AM
Subject: Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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Hello:

I think I may know the answer already, but is there any easy way to check the accessibility of any Office doc on the Mac platform?

AFAIK:

1. The Mac version of Office does not yet have a built in accessibility checker. You have to manually check each image for ALT text and make sure your document is correctly structured with headings, clear link text, tables with headers….

2. The only other method I know of is to install a Windows emulator with Office for Windows. Then you can open your document and use the Windows built-in checker or any other Windows-powered Office checking tool.

If I am missing anything, I would definitely love to know….

Thanks
Elizabeth


Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Co-Chair Accessibility Technology and Information Committee

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From: John E. Brandt
Date: Sun, May 22 2016 9:18AM
Subject: Re: Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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Not sure if others have already answered this...MS announced on 5/19 that the accessibility checker would be coming to MSO for Mac by December 2016.

John E. Brandt
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Subject: [WebAIM] Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac

Hello:

I think I may know the answer already, but is there any easy way to check the accessibility of any Office doc on the Mac platform?

AFAIK:

1. The Mac version of Office does not yet have a built in accessibility checker. You have to manually check each image for ALT text and make sure your document is correctly structured with headings, clear link text, tables with headers….

2. The only other method I know of is to install a Windows emulator with Office for Windows. Then you can open your document and use the Windows built-in checker or any other Windows-powered Office checking tool.

If I am missing anything, I would definitely love to know….

Thanks
Elizabeth


Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Co-Chair Accessibility Technology and Information Committee

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http://accessibility.psu.edu

From: Thad C
Date: Sun, May 22 2016 10:44AM
Subject: Re: Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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Hi Elizabeth,

I am part of a project that is looking at Mac Word. Typically to export the
tagging features for Mac you need to open the document in Open Office or
Windows version. I will be looking at additional use cases for Mac Word in
the next day and will be glad to consider your use cases and respond with
information.

Best
Thaddeus
On May 19, 2016 7:56 AM, "Elizabeth Pyatt" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I think I may know the answer already, but is there any easy way to check
> the accessibility of any Office doc on the Mac platform?
>
> AFAIK:
>
> 1. The Mac version of Office does not yet have a built in accessibility
> checker. You have to manually check each image for ALT text and make sure
> your document is correctly structured with headings, clear link text,
> tables with headers….
>
> 2. The only other method I know of is to install a Windows emulator with
> Office for Windows. Then you can open your document and use the Windows
> built-in checker or any other Windows-powered Office checking tool.
>
> If I am missing anything, I would definitely love to know….
>
> Thanks
> Elizabeth
>
>
> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> Co-Chair Accessibility Technology and Information Committee
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://accessibility.psu.edu
>
>
>
> > > > >

From: Dominic Capuano (gmail)
Date: Sun, May 22 2016 6:14PM
Subject: Re: Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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Elizabeth;

Regarding Mac emulation of Windows it has been my experience that this does not work very well. Emulation is difficult to set up and very unreliable, (it crashes a lot). You also cannot use NVDA or JAWS as the MAC keyboard is not mapped in the same way, (there is no insert key on the MAC keyboard).

It would be more cost effective for you to buy a mid-priced Windows machine than take the time to do emulation.

Dominic Capuano
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Subject: [WebAIM] Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac

Hello:

I think I may know the answer already, but is there any easy way to check the accessibility of any Office doc on the Mac platform?

AFAIK:

1. The Mac version of Office does not yet have a built in accessibility checker. You have to manually check each image for ALT text and make sure your document is correctly structured with headings, clear link text, tables with headers….

2. The only other method I know of is to install a Windows emulator with Office for Windows. Then you can open your document and use the Windows built-in checker or any other Windows-powered Office checking tool.

If I am missing anything, I would definitely love to know….

Thanks
Elizabeth


Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Co-Chair Accessibility Technology and Information Committee

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http://accessibility.psu.edu

From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Sun, May 22 2016 7:19PM
Subject: Re: running Windows on a Mac wasCheck Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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It is absolutely possible to use NVDA and/or JAWS on the Mac. I'll leave
whether it's best to use it with Fusion, Parallels, or Bootcamp up to
those who have assessed that more recently than I have.


It's my sense that Fusion may be the most stable, and in order to run
Windows 10, it's my understanding that you'd need Fusion 8.


See some links to resources about how to remap the keyboard, below my
name. Even if specific info is out-of-date, it's my feeling that
concepts will apply.


Best,

Jennifer



How to map your Mac's CapsLock key to a NVDA or JAWS key in a Windows
virtual machine Marco's Accessibility Blog
https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/06/07/how-to-map-your-macs-capslock-key-to-a-nvda-or-jaws-key-in-a-windows-virtual-machine/

INSERT key usage in Windows on a Mac The Paciello Group Blog:
http://blog.paciellogroup.com/2013/08/insert-key-usage-in-windows-on-a-mac/

New & Updated Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the
(...) (podcast)
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

Running Windows under VMWare Fusion Remapping your Keyboard to Create (...)
http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps/running-windows-under-vmware-fusion-remapping-your-keyboard-create-insert-key


On 5/22/2016 5:14 PM, Dominic Capuano (gmail) wrote:
> Elizabeth;
>
> Regarding Mac emulation of Windows it has been my experience that this does not work very well. Emulation is difficult to set up and very unreliable, (it crashes a lot). You also cannot use NVDA or JAWS as the MAC keyboard is not mapped in the same way, (there is no insert key on the MAC keyboard).
>
> It would be more cost effective for you to buy a mid-priced Windows machine than take the time to do emulation.
>
> Dominic Capuano
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> (h)(401) 726-2551
>
>
>
>
>

From: Sean Murphy
Date: Sun, May 22 2016 8:29PM
Subject: Re: Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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Running Windows as a VM on the Mac is doable and relabel. You can use a screen reader in the VM environment as well. I do this on a regular bases for testing purposes.

Remapping the insert key is required to use the insert key. There is a good blog from Marco Ze that explains how to achieve this without using any remapping app in Windows.

The key with VM images is to allocate the correct resources.

Sean

> On 23 May 2016, at 10:14 AM, Dominic Capuano (gmail) < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Elizabeth;
>
> Regarding Mac emulation of Windows it has been my experience that this does not work very well. Emulation is difficult to set up and very unreliable, (it crashes a lot). You also cannot use NVDA or JAWS as the MAC keyboard is not mapped in the same way, (there is no insert key on the MAC keyboard).
>
> It would be more cost effective for you to buy a mid-priced Windows machine than take the time to do emulation.
>
> Dominic Capuano
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> (h)(401) 726-2551
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:56 AM
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Check Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
>
> Hello:
>
> I think I may know the answer already, but is there any easy way to check the accessibility of any Office doc on the Mac platform?
>
> AFAIK:
>
> 1. The Mac version of Office does not yet have a built in accessibility checker. You have to manually check each image for ALT text and make sure your document is correctly structured with headings, clear link text, tables with headers….
>
> 2. The only other method I know of is to install a Windows emulator with Office for Windows. Then you can open your document and use the Windows built-in checker or any other Windows-powered Office checking tool.
>
> If I am missing anything, I would definitely love to know….
>
> Thanks
> Elizabeth
>
>
> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> Co-Chair Accessibility Technology and Information Committee
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://accessibility.psu.edu
>
>
>
> > > >
>
>
> > > >

From: Alastair Campbell
Date: Mon, May 23 2016 5:07AM
Subject: Re: running Windows on a Mac wasCheck Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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I use VMware fusion (7) with Windows 10 and Jaws/NVDA on my Mac laptop
quite happily.

I used sharpkey to map the key just under escape to insert: ±
I figured that was fairly safe as I don't remember ever using that key, and
you could use an insert-symbol dialogue.

You also have to be careful about system wide keys like cntl-left/right
moving desktop-spaces. I used the VMware options to map cntl-left/right to
alt-left/right, as the standard Mac keyboard short cuts tend to use that
pattern for moving by word, so it matches up better in my mind.

That install of windows is my favourite because it only has browsers &
screenreaders installed, none of the cruft you build up when Windows is
your base system, so it is still quick after several years of use and
upgrades.

HTH,

-Alastair


On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> It's my sense that Fusion may be the most stable, and in order to run
> Windows 10, it's my understanding that you'd need Fusion 8.
>

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, May 23 2016 11:12AM
Subject: Re: running Windows on a Mac wasCheck Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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that is the same configuration i use. but i would not map the ` as its the
key used in gmail to jump from section to section of the inbox and j-say
uses it and a few other apps do as well. i map the write alt key to the
insert key. lucy

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Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
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On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:07 AM, Alastair Campbell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I use VMware fusion (7) with Windows 10 and Jaws/NVDA on my Mac laptop
> quite happily.
>
> I used sharpkey to map the key just under escape to insert: ±
> I figured that was fairly safe as I don't remember ever using that key, and
> you could use an insert-symbol dialogue.
>
> You also have to be careful about system wide keys like cntl-left/right
> moving desktop-spaces. I used the VMware options to map cntl-left/right to
> alt-left/right, as the standard Mac keyboard short cuts tend to use that
> pattern for moving by word, so it matches up better in my mind.
>
> That install of windows is my favourite because it only has browsers &
> screenreaders installed, none of the cruft you build up when Windows is
> your base system, so it is still quick after several years of use and
> upgrades.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Alastair
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > It's my sense that Fusion may be the most stable, and in order to run
> > Windows 10, it's my understanding that you'd need Fusion 8.
> >
> > > > >

From: Alastair Campbell
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 3:36AM
Subject: Re: running Windows on a Mac wasCheck Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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I think we have different keyboards, I don't use the ` (backtick) key, it
is the one (on a UK keyboard) with ± and § on it.

(Plus/minus sign, and a funny thing that looks a bit like a dollar sign
crossed with an eight.)

Cheers,

-Alastair

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> that is the same configuration i use. but i would not map the `

From: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 5:18AM
Subject: Re: running Windows on a Mac wasCheck Accessibility of Office Document...on a Mac
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:36:04 +0100, Alastair Campbell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> I think we have different keyboards, I don't use the ` (backtick) key, it
> is the one (on a UK keyboard) with ± and § on it.
>
> (Plus/minus sign, and a funny thing that looks a bit like a dollar sign
> crossed with an eight.)

The second thing is "section". And yes, different keyboards put things in
different places.

cheers

> Cheers,
>
> -Alastair
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> that is the same configuration i use. but i would not map the `
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