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From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 7:40AM
Subject: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in the Wild
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Does anyone have a short list of accessible web applications that are publically available. I am working with a new development team here at HHS and they would like to see some good examples. I have plenty of bad ones...

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 10:30AM
Subject: Re: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in the Wild
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Can you explain what you mean by "web applications"?

The word "application" is a loaded term in web technologies.



Bryan Garaventa
Accessibility Fellow
SSB BART Group, Inc.
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415.624.2709 (o)
www.SSBBartGroup.com

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 10:54AM
Subject: Re: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in the Wild
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I'd pretty much go with the Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application>definition of a Web
Application:

*In computing, a web application or web app is a client–server software
application which the client (or user interface) runs in a web browser.*


As opposed to a "Web Site":

*A website, also written as web site, is a collection of related web pages,
including multimedia content, typically identified with a common domain
name, and published on at least one web server. *


And I'd love to see good examples of both myself

It's easy to find bad examples of accessible pages/applications (even some
government websites around are still not properly accessible)
But really good ones (other than the obvious like webaim or deque) are much
harder to find


*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Can you explain what you mean by "web applications"?
>
> The word "application" is a loaded term in web technologies.
>
>
>
> Bryan Garaventa
> Accessibility Fellow
> SSB BART Group, Inc.
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 415.624.2709 (o)
> www.SSBBartGroup.com
>
>

From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 11:05AM
Subject: Re: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in theWild
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A few possible things that would meet my need for an example might be:

An accessible event scheduling site where both the invitations and the scheduling side were accessible.

An accessible survey generation site where the process to build, take and analyze survey data were all accessible.

An accessible shopping site would probably also work

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 11:28AM
Subject: Re: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in theWild
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Thanks, that's why I asked. Often wen engineers hear web application they think of putting role="application" on the page body for this type of definition, which should never be done.

Mike's needs appear to be more specific such as a commercial shopping portal and the like, which I don't have an example of at the moment, but yours seems to be more general regarding a collection of provably accessible dynamic widgets, which you can see a collection of here if this is of help to you.
http://whatsock.com/bootstrap/jquery/

Unfortunately the majority of commercial web applications that I can think of at the moment, or dynamic web applications that all run from the same page, are found within enterprise web portals that are not publically viewable.

Generally a shopping site that navigates to different pages for it's processing is just a website, accessible or otherwise, so if that's what you guys are after, that broadens the possibilities.

Web applications in contrast are more restrictive and usually refer to heavily JavaScripted client side interactivity managed from within a small number of web pages, or as portal web apps dynamically injected into other web pages.

Bryan Garaventa
Accessibility Fellow
SSB BART Group, Inc.
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415.624.2709 (o)
www.SSBBartGroup.com

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 11:47AM
Subject: Re: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in the Wild
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Well, though I am loathe to admit it you might want to try checking out the
IBM Jazz site (jazz.net) It required a (free) login and they have a sandbox
where you can set up your own demo of their product line (which is used by
the Dept of Veterans Affairs, so it's gone through a fairly extensive 508
compliance test <I presume *wink wink*>):

- Change and Configuration Management,
- Quality Management, Requirements Management,
- Design Management
- Project Portal

I just set one up and can email an invite to use the one I just set up if
you want (or just go register and set your own up, it took me about 5
minutes)


*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks, that's why I asked. Often wen engineers hear web application they
> think of putting role="application" on the page body for this type of
> definition, which should never be done.
>
> Mike's needs appear to be more specific such as a commercial shopping
> portal and the like, which I don't have an example of at the moment, but
> yours seems to be more general regarding a collection of provably
> accessible dynamic widgets, which you can see a collection of here if this
> is of help to you.
> http://whatsock.com/bootstrap/jquery/
>
> Unfortunately the majority of commercial web applications that I can think
> of at the moment, or dynamic web applications that all run from the same
> page, are found within enterprise web portals that are not publically
> viewable.
>
> Generally a shopping site that navigates to different pages for it's
> processing is just a website, accessible or otherwise, so if that's what
> you guys are after, that broadens the possibilities.
>
> Web applications in contrast are more restrictive and usually refer to
> heavily JavaScripted client side interactivity managed from within a small
> number of web pages, or as portal web apps dynamically injected into other
> web pages.
>
> Bryan Garaventa
> Accessibility Fellow
> SSB BART Group, Inc.
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 415.624.2709 (o)
> www.SSBBartGroup.com
>
>
>

From: Greg Gamble
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 12:06PM
Subject: Re: FW: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in the Wild
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Try this one ...

https://gedverify.org


Greg

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 12:13PM
Subject: Re: FW: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications in the Wild
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Greg, Interesting, I've seen this error pop up in a LOT of sites (possibly
because they use dynamic coding to change it on the fly?), but gedverify.org
has a link that doesn't have any text associated with it:

<a href="# <https://gedverify.org/default.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2f#>" id="
ctl00_topLinkx" style="text-decoration: none;"></a>

*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Greg Gamble < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Try this one ...
>
> https://gedverify.org
>
>
> Greg
>
>

From: Greg Gamble
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 2:51PM
Subject: Re: FW: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications inthe Wild
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There are several panels that need a way to link back to the top, this is an anchor tag.

How is this an error?


Greg

From: Greg Gamble
Date: Tue, May 24 2016 2:53PM
Subject: Re: FW: Good Examples of Accessible Web Applications inthe Wild
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Contact me off list if it's better ...


Greg