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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Fri, Jun 02 2017 3:37PM
Subject: a sample before and after document
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hello: does any one have a sample of a before and after document i
could use in a video to demonstrate the in portents of accessable
content it only needs to be a short document as the video i am creating
will be short as well thanks
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

From: JP Jamous
Date: Fri, Jun 02 2017 4:37PM
Subject: Re: a sample before and after document
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What type of document are you looking for? Doc or PDF?

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hello: does any one have a sample of a before and after document i
could use in a video to demonstrate the in portents of accessable
content it only needs to be a short document as the video i am creating will be short as well thanks Lucia Greco Web Accessibility Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Fri, Jun 02 2017 4:53PM
Subject: Re: a sample before and after document
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thanks for the quick reply pdf of course smile they are always the hardest
sy

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> What type of document are you looking for? Doc or PDF?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:37 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document
>
> hello: does any one have a sample of a before and after document i
> could use in a video to demonstrate the in portents of accessable
> content it only needs to be a short document as the video i am creating
> will be short as well thanks Lucia Greco Web Accessibility Evangelist IST -
> Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > >

From: JP Jamous
Date: Sat, Jun 03 2017 9:20AM
Subject: Re: a sample before and after document
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If you can give me a day, I can dig something up for you. Most of the ones at my possession now are confidential info.

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Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 5:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document

thanks for the quick reply pdf of course smile they are always the hardest sy

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> What type of document are you looking for? Doc or PDF?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:37 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document
>
> hello: does any one have a sample of a before and after document i
> could use in a video to demonstrate the in portents of accessable
> content it only needs to be a short document as the video i am
> creating will be short as well thanks Lucia Greco Web Accessibility
> Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University
> of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >

From: Chagnon | PubCom
Date: Sat, Jun 03 2017 9:59AM
Subject: Re: a sample before and after document
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Lucia,
I have tons but can't release them because they are clients' work, not my firm's.

However, most government documents are in the public domain once they are made public, such as when they are published to a public-facing website.

Google *.gov + *.pdf and you'll find quite a few samples (well, probably millions) that might work for you. You might find:

-- A really bad PDF that you can demonstrate in the video how to remediate.

-- The same annual report but for different years. The latest might be more accessible than previous years. I use samples like this in my accessible design classes and they work very well because government reports usually maintain the same visual appearance from one edition to the next, so you can compare how various elements are accessible in one and not in another.

Some government samples are below (note these are large PDFs made from InDesign layouts so they are full of design doo-hickeys, sidebars, graphics, lists, and more lists. And those crazy-named tags that InDesign creates, but use Acrobat's role-map utility to view how they will be interpreted by A.T.

Here's an older 2011 edition that isn't accessible at all: https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2011-10-30qr.pdf
A later version in 2012 that's fairly accessible: https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2012-04-30qr.pdf
And a 2014 version that someone attempted to make accessible but really didn't know what they were doing: https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2014-07-30qr.pdf

--Bevi

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 5:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document

thanks for the quick reply pdf of course smile they are always the hardest sy

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> What type of document are you looking for? Doc or PDF?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:37 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document
>
> hello: does any one have a sample of a before and after document i
> could use in a video to demonstrate the in portents of accessable
> content it only needs to be a short document as the video i am
> creating will be short as well thanks Lucia Greco Web Accessibility
> Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University
> of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Jun 05 2017 12:49PM
Subject: Re: a sample before and after document
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hi JP please do send what you can i will not be recording for a few days
yet. i only need a vary small doc. i am looking for a scanned doc that
then had tags added and ofcourse ocr smile lucy

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Chagnon | PubCom < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Lucia,
> I have tons but can't release them because they are clients' work, not my
> firm's.
>
> However, most government documents are in the public domain once they are
> made public, such as when they are published to a public-facing website.
>
> Google *.gov + *.pdf and you'll find quite a few samples (well, probably
> millions) that might work for you. You might find:
>
> -- A really bad PDF that you can demonstrate in the video how to remediate.
>
> -- The same annual report but for different years. The latest might be
> more accessible than previous years. I use samples like this in my
> accessible design classes and they work very well because government
> reports usually maintain the same visual appearance from one edition to the
> next, so you can compare how various elements are accessible in one and not
> in another.
>
> Some government samples are below (note these are large PDFs made from
> InDesign layouts so they are full of design doo-hickeys, sidebars,
> graphics, lists, and more lists. And those crazy-named tags that InDesign
> creates, but use Acrobat's role-map utility to view how they will be
> interpreted by A.T.
>
> Here's an older 2011 edition that isn't accessible at all:
> https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2011-10-30qr.pdf
> A later version in 2012 that's fairly accessible:
> https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2012-04-30qr.pdf
> And a 2014 version that someone attempted to make accessible but really
> didn't know what they were doing: https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/
> quarterlyreports/2014-07-30qr.pdf
>
> --Bevi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 5:54 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document
>
> thanks for the quick reply pdf of course smile they are always the hardest
> sy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California,
> Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:37 PM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > What type of document are you looking for? Doc or PDF?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:37 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] a sample before and after document
> >
> > hello: does any one have a sample of a before and after document i
> > could use in a video to demonstrate the in portents of accessable
> > content it only needs to be a short document as the video i am
> > creating will be short as well thanks Lucia Greco Web Accessibility
> > Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University
> > of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > >