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From: JP Jamous
Date: Sun, Aug 06 2017 7:52PM
Subject: VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
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Has anyone on this list run into zero accessibility with the Visual Studio
.NET 2017 Community edition installation screens?
I have tried the installation on Windows 10 Pro in a virtual machine. JAWS
18 only announces the window title. Nothing else is announced on the screen
where to select the components to be installed or the next screen after
that.
I was not sure if JAWS 18 is lacking certain features to interact with this
UI. I noticed that in my virtual machine JAWS 18 OCR is not installed due to
lack of video drivers.
I would like to know if anyone faced such an issue on a real physical
machine. Either way, the UI should be keyboard accessible. Microsoft cannot
brag about accessibility and disregard this main factor in its application.
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From: Jim Homme
Date: Mon, Aug 07 2017 7:30AM
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
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Hi JP,
You might want to ask this on program-l.
Thanks.
Jim
=========Jim Homme,
Team Lead and Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
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From: JP Jamous<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 9:52 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
Has anyone on this list run into zero accessibility with the Visual Studio
.NET 2017 Community edition installation screens?
I have tried the installation on Windows 10 Pro in a virtual machine. JAWS
18 only announces the window title. Nothing else is announced on the screen
where to select the components to be installed or the next screen after
that.
I was not sure if JAWS 18 is lacking certain features to interact with this
UI. I noticed that in my virtual machine JAWS 18 OCR is not installed due to
lack of video drivers.
I would like to know if anyone faced such an issue on a real physical
machine. Either way, the UI should be keyboard accessible. Microsoft cannot
brag about accessibility and disregard this main factor in its application.
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From: JP Jamous
Date: Tue, Aug 08 2017 5:38AM
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
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Thank you Jim. I already filed a bug with Microsoft. I'll inform this list if the problem is resolved. It seemed like the UI did not have any keyboard access. Once a sighted help was applying the clicks JAWS was announcing the check boxes and buttons.
After I loaded the UI, JAWS worked fine with it. There were no issues.
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Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 8:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
Hi JP,
You might want to ask this on program-l.
Thanks.
Jim
=========Jim Homme,
Team Lead and Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
E+R=O
From: JP Jamous<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 9:52 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
Has anyone on this list run into zero accessibility with the Visual Studio .NET 2017 Community edition installation screens?
I have tried the installation on Windows 10 Pro in a virtual machine. JAWS
18 only announces the window title. Nothing else is announced on the screen where to select the components to be installed or the next screen after that.
I was not sure if JAWS 18 is lacking certain features to interact with this UI. I noticed that in my virtual machine JAWS 18 OCR is not installed due to lack of video drivers.
I would like to know if anyone faced such an issue on a real physical machine. Either way, the UI should be keyboard accessible. Microsoft cannot brag about accessibility and disregard this main factor in its application.
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From: J Isaac
Date: Tue, Aug 08 2017 9:04AM
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
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JP,
Just Out of curiosity, I installed VS Community on a Win 10 standalone machine. When using JAWS focus seemed to get stuck on certain buttons. I muted JAWS, and started NVDA. Tabbing seemed to resolve the navigation issue. After closing NVDA and restarting JAWS, progress and navigation seemed to announce ok.
This is a rich interface containing a lot of information. There were times, where I thought I was stuck, but the interface is slow due to the amount of elements on screen and amount of data being added to the hard drive. Nonetheless, the interface is a bit quirky, and I could see how configuration could affect the screen reader's interpretation. Throw in a VM, and the complexity and quirkiness could increase.
Hope this feedback helps.
== J
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Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 4:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
Thank you Jim. I already filed a bug with Microsoft. I'll inform this list if the problem is resolved. It seemed like the UI did not have any keyboard access. Once a sighted help was applying the clicks JAWS was announcing the check boxes and buttons.
After I loaded the UI, JAWS worked fine with it. There were no issues.
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jim Homme
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 8:31 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
Hi JP,
You might want to ask this on program-l.
Thanks.
Jim
=========Jim Homme,
Team Lead and Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
E+R=O
From: JP Jamous<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 9:52 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] VS.NET 2017 inaccessible Installation UI
Has anyone on this list run into zero accessibility with the Visual Studio .NET 2017 Community edition installation screens?
I have tried the installation on Windows 10 Pro in a virtual machine. JAWS
18 only announces the window title. Nothing else is announced on the screen where to select the components to be installed or the next screen after that.
I was not sure if JAWS 18 is lacking certain features to interact with this UI. I noticed that in my virtual machine JAWS 18 OCR is not installed due to lack of video drivers.
I would like to know if anyone faced such an issue on a real physical machine. Either way, the UI should be keyboard accessible. Microsoft cannot brag about accessibility and disregard this main factor in its application.
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