Thread Subject: Nov 14 teleconference CANCELLED per Debbie Cook

From: Rex Lint
Date: Tue, Nov 14 2006 10:05 AM

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Brent,

"The anticipated subcommittee meting for tomorrow [this was sent 11/13] has
been canceled due to the various logistics of appointing co-chairs, the
holiday on Friday, and meeting logistics. Sorry we're getting off to a bit
of a slow start, but we're confident we can make up for lost time iwth the
improved communications plan and tools." [Debbie Cook]

Best,

Rex Lint, Consultant
Chair, Section 508 Working Group
Information Technology Association of America
PH: 603-860-7651, FAX: 603-882-6612

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Brent Durst
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:13 AM
To: TEITAC self contained/closed products subcommittee
Subject: Re: [teitac-closed] Additional issues with closed, self-contained
products

Hello, What is the dial in info for todays call? It's at 10am PST Correct?

Brent Durst
Zune, Content Operations
425.705.1664
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Gregg
Vanderheiden
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:57 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; 'TEITAC self contained/closed products
subcommittee'
Subject: Re: [teitac-closed] Additional issues with closed, self-contained
products

Yes. I would say that is correct. If a product is closed (e.g. a kiosk) or
otherwise closed by policy, the only way that people with disabilities can
access and use it is if the accessibility is built in. This does not need
to require AT. Almost all technologies from computers to phones have
speech capability. Voicing can just be part of the software package used
on the closed product (e.g. kiosk or card catalog etc.).

The alternative is that people with disabilities cannot use them and cannot
make them accessible - which is the opposite of the goal of 508.


Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Diane Golden
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:17 PM
> To: 'TEITAC self contained/closed products subcommittee'
> Subject: Re: [teitac-closed] Additional issues with
> closed,self-contained products
>
> While I don't have an issue with this defintion from a
> theoretical perspective -- it is not likely practical as a
> 508 definition of closed, self-contained products so long as
> there is a robust set of technical access standards to which
> such products must conform. Specifically, if all products
> that meet the closed, self-contained definition need to
> conform to the technical standands for closed, self-contained
> products and those standards require built-in access features
> comparable to something like the voting system standards
> (speech output, large visual display output, alternative
> input options, etc.) then public use computers (closed by
> policy) would need to have a whole bunch of AT built into the
> system or be loaded on so that each computer would meet the standards.
>
> Diane
>
> Diane Cordry Golden, Ph.D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]On Behalf Of
> Gregg Vanderheiden
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: 'TEITAC self contained/closed products subcommittee'
> Subject: Re: [teitac-closed] Additional issues with
> closed,self-contained products
>
>
> Definition of Closed that was presented at Plenary
>
> Any product where the user is prevented from installing or
> attaching adaptive assistive technology due to physical,
> electrical or policy restrictions.
>
> - this can be specific to the application rather than the
> hardware. That is, a desktop computer that is purchased with
> library card catalog software (where the desktop computer
> will be locked down) would be closed and could only be
> evaluated with AT if the AT was to be installed in the closed
> products as purchased. Similarly a PC in a Kiosk would be
> closed. A PC
> on a user's desktop where the user can install any software
> they need would not be closed.
>
>
>
> Gregg
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> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>
>
>

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