Thread Subject: Re: Group D: 22(d) Readable without stylesheets

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From: Jared Smith
Date: Fri, Dec 01 2006 11:40 AM


On 11/29/06, Andi Snow-Weaver < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Current wording: Documents shall be organized so they are readable without
> requiring an associated style sheet.

I've always struggled with this guideline. I don't think I've ever
seen a web page that is not 'readable' with styles disabled. And is
'styles' just CSS or is it also <font> tags, layout tables, and such?
I think the intention is, as Jonathan notes, that the reading and
navigation order and structure of the content is logical and operable
when styles are disabled. Also, the word 'readable' is quite different
from 'understandable', 'logical', and 'operable'. I can read a site in
German or Elvish, but it won't be very accessible to me.

And to be a bit technical, you never really disable all style sheets,
you just revert to the browser default styles.

> This is not a requirement in WCAG 2.0 because it is a baseline issue. If
> CSS is in your baseline, then the page doesn't have to work with style
> sheets disabled. If CSS is not in your baseline, then it does.

Perhaps this is a bit off topic...
Maybe I'm interpreting baselines incorrectly (imagine that?), but if a
page uses CSS and is inaccessible with them turned off, then CSS MUST
be in the baseline because it's a required technology, right? So if
CSS is in the baseline, is there no contingency for ensuring that the
page is accessible if those styles are disabled or overridden by user
styles (which is essentially the same as turning them off)? If this is
the case, this could result in big issues for many users that require
user styles or even prefer no styles - the develop simply says that
*this* CSS is required and if it doesn't work for you, too bad.

Jared Smith


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