Thread Subject: Re: Group D: 22(d) Readable without stylesheets

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From: Lybarger, Barbara (MOD)
Date: Tue, Dec 19 2006 10:45 AM


I have no problem with the concept, only the level of the directive.
Since we are directing the federal agencies about the end result, the
language should be mandatory ("shall be"), instead of the proposed
permissive ("can be").

The permissive "can be" language is about capabilities of an
application. What the standard needs to do is place requirements on the
actually deployed state of the application. That is mandatory "shall
be" language.

Barbara Lybarger

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To: 'TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee'
Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] Group D: 22(d) Readable without
stylesheets

Current wording. 1194.22(d) Documents shall be organized so they are
readable without requiring an associated style sheet.

The discussion on the list on this item 1194.22(d) (Readable without
style
sheets) has been succinctly summarized by Andi on the wiki,
http://teitac.org/wiki/Web_and_Software:_Correct_coding#22.28d.29. On
the last call (12/13) I took the action item to submit a proposal
relative to this provision.

Proposal: Delete provision 1194.22(d) (Readable without style sheets).

The problem is that it is possible with CSS positioning to wreak havoc
on the source code order of the content and the order can be meaningful.
Thus following WCAG 2.0 we need a provision that guarantees that AT can
come up with a meaningful reading order. The following proposal takes
the wording from the current WCAG 2.0 Editors Draft
(http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/).

Proposal: (Meaningful sequence) When the sequence in which content is
presented affects its meaning, a correct reading sequence can be
programmatically determined.

This proposal is also added to the Wiki - the agenda for the 12/20
meeting (http://teitac.org/wiki/Web_and_Software:December_20#Agenda).

Jim Thatcher
512-306-0931
Accessibility Consulting
http://jimthatcher.com


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