Thread Subject: Re: TEITAC committee participants - Editing Wiki

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From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Thu, Oct 12 2006 2:36 PM

Sorry,



Didn't mean that to be a conclusion (that wide open wiki editing was not
good). It was just an opinion. And it didn't necessarily mean that we
should lock the WIKIs. It might just be policy of a subcommittee. If
people all edit the WIKI then people on the list (or who don't watch the
wiki and know how to track histories) will never see the edits go by.

I was suggesting discussion on the list and editing to reflect. Or that
only those who will consistently report edits to the list.



But all this is moot for us to discuss I think. Unless the chairs are
going to set hard and fast rules across the committees. (and there should
be some rules).

Otherwise I think we decided that the subcommittees would decide for
themselves how to operate.



Maybe we should stay hands off - and then make rules where there is abuse.
(or if we can see places where we should prevent it up front)



Personally, I think that Jared's implementation that requires a valid email
address to make edits should be good enough for now. My groups wiki is
open and if we have a problem we will try to deal with it at the committee
level. And come to Chairs/AB only if we can't.




Gregg

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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Bailey Bruce
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:34 AM
To: TEITAC Communications Task Force
Subject: Re: [teitac-tools] TEITAC committee participants - Editing Wiki

I concur with all Gregg's point but disagree with his conclusion that having
the wiki relatively open is a bad idea, at least at this juncture. Since
there is only one wiki, what if one subcommittee welcomes all to do the
work, but another asserts that only formal subcommittee members should be
editing? I also think the manpower required to exert this level of control
could be put to better effect. Close administration of privileges and
subcommittee membership will be time consuming, all the more so because the
process is suppose to be open. Who will be doing this work? Jared? Me?
Tim? Jim and Mike? The subcommittee chairs? Is this task even something
Jared could delegate if he wanted to?



I am disinclined to make it a point to save the subcommittee transcripts. I
am actually strongly of the opinion that such a practice should be actively
discouraged. RCC is an accommodation, not a stenography service. If the
chair keeps it long enough to facilitate the posting of minutes or a
summary, that is fine. FACA obligations for the committee meetings is
something else entirely.






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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of mike paciello
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:28 AM
To: 'TEITAC Communications Task Force'
Subject: Re: [teitac-tools] TEITAC committee participants - Editing Wiki

I just verified my personal notes against Gregg's points below and I he's
captured everything stated/decided during the committee meetings. This
includes the last bullett involving READ privileges to all on the WIKI.



We did, in fact say that all meetings had to be accessible. We didn't say
recorded in audio or text.



- Mike




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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Gregg
Vanderheiden
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:45 AM
To: 'TEITAC Communications Task Force'
Subject: Re: [teitac-tools] TEITAC committee participants - Editing Wiki

I'm not sure what is being referred to where but.



My memory is that



- We decided that the subcommittees were open to all.

- We also decided that subcommittees would determine their own
operating principles

- If a subcommittee decided that only the chairs or only an editor
would enter data in the WIKI that would be within what we said.

- If a subcommittee including ALL members (whether on TEITAC or
not) decided to limit access to wiki in some other way that also would seem
to be within jurisdiction.

- I believe that we did conclude that the WIKIs had to be open for
all to READ. Even those not on the committees. Part of open process.
Tim or Dave Capozzi could confirm.



I think that having anyone in the world editing on the wiki is a bad idea.
But that is up to each subcommittee I believe, unless it would violate some
rule that the Access board needs to follow or impose.



With regard to CART. My memory is that we said all meetings had to be
accessible. We didn't say they all had to be recorded - in audio or in
text. So I don't know where we are on that. Maybe back to 'the committees
decide'.





Does this help?


Gregg

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