Thread Subject: Re: revision of 24(e)

From: Baronas, Jean
Date: Wed, Jan 03 2007 3:15 PM

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How's this:

Original: Display or presentation of alternate text presentation or
audio
> descriptions shall be user-selectable unless permanent

Revision: The user shall have the option to turn on and off text
presentation or audio descriptions.

Jean Baronas



-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Larry
Goldberg
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:00 PM
To: TEITAC AV list
Subject: Re: [teitac-video] revision of 24(e)

I fear that this new verbiage introduces too many new terms and words
that
people aren't used to and won't understand; i.e. " Equivalents," "
audible
or visible (respectively) by default," " unless a mechanism ... exists."

Also, I feel we need to address Dave's point about equal level of
end-user
requirements to gain access. It's very easy to imagine an implementation
of
closed captioning that seems facile (and even cool!) to the developer
but
which requires a specific browser of a specific version, with a specific
plug-in or set of plug-ins.

Maybe we should just require that all video be open-captioned and
open-described...

[just kidding] [sort of]

- Larry


Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:

> Here's another way to skin this:
>
> Original:Display or presentation of alternate text presentation or
audio
> descriptions shall be user-selectable unless permanent
>
> Proposed: Equivalents for video and audio shall be audible or visible
> (respectively) by default, unless a mechanism to enable the display
> exists.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Dave Singer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:59 PM
> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] revision of 24(e)
>
> The problem with removing "permanent" and saying something like
> "available to everyone" is that the definition of "available" is very
> vague ('oh yes, it's available, you just need to pay for this premium
> service, buy this tool, and then ...').
>
> The intent is that the entire caption stream or audio stream be
> presented without user intervention.
>
> The other comment I made was that this should say something about the
> end-user requirements to be able to turn captions on and off should
not
> be materially different or more onerous than to recieve the basic
> program material ('you don't need a special television').
> --
> David Singer
> Apple Computer/QuickTime
>

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