Thread Subject: Re: 1194.23(k)(2)

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From: Thomas Albin
Date: Sat, Mar 10 2007 10:10 AM

I respectully disagree. In a lawsuit filed by the Department of
Justice and then settled by agreement, the following statement
appears: "The paper towel dispenser is inaccessible because the
controls require tight twisting of the wrist or tight pinching to
advance the paper." Clearly the Department of Justice, the Court and
the Defendant believe that "tight" modifies twisting and pinching
and grasping. The reference is "SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND WASHINGTON COUNTY, UTAH UNDER THE
AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT DJ 204-77-63".

Tom Albin

On Mar 10, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:

> Hi Debbie,
>
> The gripping isn't one of the items.
>
> The three provisions are
>
> Grasping
> Pinching
> Twisting
>
> "tight can't apply to all three. Tight twisting doesn't make sense.
>
> And pinching doesn't work even if light. It just is outside the
> ability of
> many people with different disabilities.
>
> Only grasping is allowed and only if not tight.
>
>
> Make sense?
>
>
> Gregg
> -- ------------------------------
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
>> Debbie Cook
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:27 PM
>> To: TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee
>> Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] 1194.23(k)(2)
>>
>> I don't support the proposed change. I believe "tight"
>> applies to all of the actions. No tight gripping, no tight
>> grasping etc.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Thomas Albin" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> To: "TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee"
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:22 PM
>> Subject: [teitac-hardware] 1194.23(k)(2)
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be such a broken record on this, but I still don't
>> understand whether or not a decision was made regarding the
>> recommendation to the committee regarding 1194.23(k)(2). It
>> was originally proposed to leave the language as currently
>> written in 508, e.g. "...and shall not require tight
>> grasping, pinching or twisting of the wrist" . I thought
>> that I heard a decision to re- word this as "...and shall not
>> require pinching, twisting of the
>> wrist or tight grasping"? Was a decision made regarding this?
>> Tom Albin
>>
>>
>>
>>

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