Thread Subject: Re: Subpart A- Draft - CAPTIONS description

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From: Jagbell
Date: Thu, Mar 15 2007 11:45 AM

It should only be in the lower third but the networks and production
companies are lately this is potential real estate for them. So,
shows like American Idol are running captions across the singers'
faces and mouths. It is sort of a form over function issue. Yes,
the caption are appearing but are they effective if they run across
someone's face. Should Fox and CBS' logo bump captions from the
lower third of the screen? We say no.


On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Deborah Buck wrote:

> Playing devils advocate- Will captions ALWAYS appear in the lower
> third of the screen? Doesn’t, or in the future won’t, the user
> have the ability to control where the captions appear? If we put
> this in the definition – does it limit the technology and use?
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> Please see my suggestion below in red.
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> On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
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> This one clearly is in scope (grin)
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> Let me list the questions/ issues and then propose fixes where I
> can find them.
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> Captioning
> Captions are synchronized text display(s) of information that is
> presented on the screen in an audio format. Captions appear in the
> lower third of the screen as written representation of onscreen
> audio narration or spoken dialogue, Captions are similar to
> subtitles, but also convey non-dialogue auditory information that
> is important to the video, such as on- and off-screen sound
> effects, music, and laughter that are synchronized with the images
> on the screen.
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> 1) the phrase “onscreen audio narration or spoken dialog” has
> two problems
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> a. first – it messes with my head to think of ‘on screen
> audio”. On-screen is a visual place – the audio comes from
> somewhere else.
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> b. Second – captions also cover audio that comes from people
> and events that are offscreen.
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> 2) Since we are trying to be international, you should know
> that in the United Kingdom (multiple countries) the term captions
> is not used. Subtitles is what they call both our captions and our
> subtitles.
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> So I would suggest a slight edit as follows. (But Larry and Geoff
> should check this – they look at this more than I do)
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> Captioning
> Captions are synchronized text display(s) of information that is
> presented in an audio track. Captions appear as written
> representation of audio narration or spoken dialogue, and other
> important audio events. Captions are similar to alternate
> language subtitles that are synchronized with the images on the
> screen, except that they are in the same language as the audio and
> also convey non-dialogue auditory information that is important to
> the video, such as on- and off-screen sound effects, music, and
> laughter.
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> Gregg
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> Gregg Vanderheiden
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