Thread Subject: Re: 21 g - revision

From: Barrett, Don
Date: Mon, Mar 26 2007 3:45 PM

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I thought though that that was the whole point -- that at least all
standard documented OS functional settings would be honored by an
application. If, as you say, they are not, then the app shouldn't have
to respect them. If that wasn't what was supposed to be, then why not
simply state:
"Applications shall display themselves utilizing user selected contrast
and color selections and other individual display attributes."

If we just leave out the phrase " when the availability of those
selections are developed and documented as standard operating system
functions," then all settings, regardless of where they originate are
covered.
What am I missing?


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Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] 21 g - revision

Hmmm
This has the same problem. "What if they are not?"


Can we just specify real values of contrast that should be possible?


Gregg
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> What about
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> "Applications shall display themselves utilizing user
> selected contrast and color selections and other individual
> display attributes when the availability of those selections
> are developed and documented as standard operating system functions."
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Gregg Vanderheiden
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:58 PM
> To: 'TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee'
> Subject: [teitac-websoftware] 21 g - revision
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> The proposed (new) wording is:
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> Applications shall utilize user selected contrast and color
> selections and other individual display attributes when the
> availability of those selections are developed and documented
> according to industry standards.
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> I'm not sure this will work. The proposed new wording
> appears to not
> be testable as formulated and appears to be more limited than
> the original.
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> Some questions
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> 1) What if there are no industry standards? Do you not have to
> respect user settings?
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> - What are the industry standards for documentation?
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> - What are the industry standards for development.
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> We would need to define these terms and point to the industry
> standard in order to allow anyone to use this.
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> 2) This provision seems to say that you don't have to honor user
> settings if the settings are not developed using the standards.
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> 3) The term 'utilize' is also unclear. Does this mean
> follow? Or just use them in their calculations?
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> The old wording had no such conditions so this would be
> considerably weaker.
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> Can we use wording like WCAG?
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