Thread Subject: Re: One we missed

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From: James Elekes
Date: Fri, Apr 27 2007 1:10 PM

Maybe I shouldn't mention my cell. It was a gift
to me because of its tactile keys. The individual
providing it to me is a longtime friend and, the
model was his companies first attempt to develop
a more user friendly cell for individuals who are
totally blind. The shortcoming was the first
item I noticed. When our test were complete, I
was so comfortable with the usability, I was
given the cell in appreciation for my work. I
have a cell with an ear jack but, the prototype
is just more user friendly. I carry both when I know I'll need an ear piece.

JJE

At 01:57 PM 4/27/2007, you wrote:
>it surprises me to find a cell phone with no ability to port the audio
>output.
>
>On Apr 27, 2007, at 2:51 PM, James Elekes wrote:
>
>Greg,
>
>As a totally blind individual, it is critical for
>me to have an audio jack whenever there is audio
>output. If not available, everyone hears what I'm
>listening to. I agree printers and similar
>technology does not need this "access port" as
>the sound given off should be sufficient to cover
>an acknowledgement to an individual such as
>myself and, individuals with hearing impairments
>will have the ability of the visual.
>
>I have but one concern, technology getting so
>small that an audio jack is not possible, e.g. my
>cell phone doesn't have one and, I use a speech
>program to read Text Messages and maneuver
>through the menue/prompts. Is it realistic to
>require a wireless connect to an earpiece from
>such devices? Regretfully, I'm not sufficiently
>versed to provide adequate comment on the lattter.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>
>James J. Elekes, Chairperson
>Ad Hoc Committee-Technologies
>United States Access Board
>
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>
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>
>
>At 11:12 AM 4/27/2007, you wrote:
> > I was asked by Randy to post something on this
> > to the list to open up discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> > The first half of - S 1194.25 (e) deals with
> > hardware issues (including an audio jack on product with audio output)
> >
> > 508 - S 1194.25 (e) When products provide
> > auditory output, the audio signal shall be
> > provided at a standard signal level through an
> > industry standard connector that will allow for
> > private listening. The product must provide the
> > ability to interrupt, pause, and restart the audio at anytime.
> >
> > This was in closed product issue ­ but should it
> > apply to computers and other non-closed products
> > too? Seems like it is not tied to closed part.
> >
> > But we don't want to just have anything with
> > audio output have a headphone jack. A printer
> > that beeps for example would not normally need a
> > headphone jack (though it could be handy for
> > connecting a flasher ­ this could be done by
> > network for a network printer and isn't probably
> > anything important enough that a small visual led couldn?t meet. )
> >
> > Maybe something like this (which restricts it to speech output
> > devices).
> >
> > Xxxxx When products provide speech output, the
> > audio signal shall be provided at a standard
> > signal level through an industry standard
> > connector that will allow for private listening.
> >
> >
> > (this also would address the JIS )
> >
> >
> > Just starting the discussion
> >
> >
> > Gregg
> >
> > ------------------------
> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> > Director - Trace R & D Center
> > University of Wisconsin-Madison
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> >
> >
> >

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