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From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Tue, Jun 05 2007 9:20 AM
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Hmmmmm
Looks like we need a good alternate term......
Looking for a term that means "requires presence of particular body parts".
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
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> Jim Tobias
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> Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
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> I agree with Gregg here: although a capacitive switch is
> technically "biometric" it's not what we mean elsewhere when
> we refer to biometric. I'd rather reserve that word for the
> authentication and security type devices: retina scans,
> finferprint readers, etc. We could call the other stuff
> "non-mechanically operated physical controls" to distinguish
> them from the controls covered in 2.2.A (force requirements,
> tactile discernability, etc.). Putting the two categories
> together may be technically defensible and clear to us, but
> it will cause confusion among the lucky thousands heretofore
> ignorant of our efforts.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 5:08 PM
> > To: 'TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee'
> > Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> >
> > We need to separate Authentication functions of biometrics
> from things
> > like
> > touch screens. I personally would never call a capacitive
> > touchscreen a
> > biometric device but some people do. So we need to separate those
> > types of devices (heat activated switches, capacitive switches,
> > gesture recognition devices, etc) from biometric ID.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gregg
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> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Of Debbie
> > > Cook
> > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:08 PM
> > > To: TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee
> > > Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> > >
> > > I believe that control and activation are the only elements
> > that apply
> > > to biometrics and covered E&IT. So I think they are
> > essential to the
> > > definition. Biometric forms of identification other than for
> > > activation are not part of operating E&IT. So, I might drop
> > the notion
> > > of identification and assume that it is a subset of activation.
> > >
> > > Possible wording:
> > > When biometric forms of activation or control are used, an
> > alternative
> > > form of activation or control, which does not require the user to
> > > possess particular biological characteristics, shall also
> > be provided.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:57 AM
> > > Subject: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > On the con-call today, we started discussion on touch
> > controls there
> > > was split relative to biometric identification versus biometric
> > > controls so that touch capacitive controls are considered
> > part of 508
> > > and how they impact the end-user.
> > >
> > > The language for 1194.25(d) and 1194.26(c) is the same and is as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > When biometric forms of user identification or control
> are used, an
> > > alternative form of identification or activation, which does not
> > > require the user to possess particular biological
> characteristics,
> > > shall also be provided.
> > >
> > > The proposal is to remove the "or control" and "or activation"
> > > sections.
> > > This changes the language to focus on the Biometric
> identification
> > > element. The control element would then need to be
> integrated into
> > > the overall controls discussion.
> > >
> > > Thus, the new language would be:
> > >
> > > When biometric forms of user identification are used, an
> > alternative
> > > form of identification, which does not require the user
> to possess
> > > particular biological characteristics, shall also be provided.
> > >
> > > Please comment and discuss...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rob
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