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From: Robert_Nerhood@Dell.com
Date: Tue, Jun 05 2007 2:00 PM
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You may have an option to consider with "biophysical". Biophysical
suggests that interaction relies on physical and biological
characteristic of the user.
Rob
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Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
I don't think a touch activated switch is a "measurement of a human
physical
trait"
What trait is it measuring?
I see Iris pattern, fingerprint, voice profile all as traits.
I don't see speech recognition as a trait though. Just voice ID.
And capacitance pattern (my unique pattern) might be a trait but I don't
thing a capacitance switch would be.
Trait means "individual characteristic" a particular characteristic or
quality that distinguishes somebody.
So I think we should keep "biometric" to the ID category and use another
term for other 'switch like' biophysical activations.
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
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> Randy Marsden
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:24 PM
> To: TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
>
> Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Biometrics (ancient Greek: bios ="life", metron ="measure")
> is the study of methods for uniquely recognizing humans based
> upon one or more intrinsic physical or behavioral traits.
>
> In information technology, biometric authentication refers to
> technologies that measure and analyze human physical and
> behavioral characteristics for authentication purposes.
> Examples of physical (or physiological or
> biometric) characteristics include fingerprints, eye retinas
> and irises, facial patterns and hand measurements, while
> examples of mostly behavioural characteristics include
> signature, gait and typing patterns. All behavioral biometric
> characteristics have a physiological component, and, to a
> lesser degree, physical biometric characteristics have a
> behavioral element.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I believe the technically correct word we should use it still
> Biometrics (defined as "the measurement of human physical
> traits"). The correct term related to security
> identification is "Biometric Authentication". Even though
> many think of Biometrics as only security-related, the
> generic term is broader than that. But I can see where there
> is confusion.
>
> What about using Biometric as an adverb such as: "Biometric Input"?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Randy Marsden, P.Eng.
> President & CEO, Madentec Limited
> ATIA Global Policy Chair
>
> 780-450-8926 ext. 223
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> > From: "Gregg Vanderheiden" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Reply-To: "TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee"
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> > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:17:19 -0500
> > To: "'TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee'"
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> > Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> >
> > Hmmmmm
> >
> >
> > Looks like we need a good alternate term......
> >
> > Looking for a term that means "requires presence of
> particular body parts".
> >
> >
> > Gregg
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> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> >
> >
> >
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> >> Tobias
> >> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:07 PM
> >> To: 'TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee'
> >> Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> >>
> >> I agree with Gregg here: although a capacitive switch is
> technically
> >> "biometric" it's not what we mean elsewhere when we refer to
> >> biometric. I'd rather reserve that word for the
> authentication and
> >> security type devices: retina scans, finferprint readers, etc. We
> >> could call the other stuff "non-mechanically operated physical
> >> controls" to distinguish them from the controls covered in 2.2.A
> >> (force requirements, tactile discernability, etc.).
> Putting the two
> >> categories together may be technically defensible and clear to us,
> >> but it will cause confusion among the lucky thousands heretofore
> >> ignorant of our efforts.
> >>
> >> ***
> >> Jim Tobias
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> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 5:08 PM
> >>> To: 'TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee'
> >>> Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> >>>
> >>> We need to separate Authentication functions of biometrics
> >> from things
> >>> like
> >>> touch screens. I personally would never call a capacitive
> >>> touchscreen a
> >>> biometric device but some people do. So we need to
> separate those
> >>> types of devices (heat activated switches, capacitive switches,
> >>> gesture recognition devices, etc) from biometric ID.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gregg
> >>> -- ------------------------------
> >>> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Of Debbie
> >>>> Cook
> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:08 PM
> >>>> To: TEITAC desktop/portable (hardware) subcommittee
> >>>> Subject: Re: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe that control and activation are the only elements
> >>> that apply
> >>>> to biometrics and covered E&IT. So I think they are
> >>> essential to the
> >>>> definition. Biometric forms of identification other than for
> >>>> activation are not part of operating E&IT. So, I might drop
> >>> the notion
> >>>> of identification and assume that it is a subset of activation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Possible wording:
> >>>> When biometric forms of activation or control are used, an
> >>> alternative
> >>>> form of activation or control, which does not require
> the user to
> >>>> possess particular biological characteristics, shall also
> >>> be provided.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
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> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:57 AM
> >>>> Subject: [teitac-hardware] Biometric Language Discussion
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On the con-call today, we started discussion on touch
> >>> controls there
> >>>> was split relative to biometric identification versus biometric
> >>>> controls so that touch capacitive controls are considered
> >>> part of 508
> >>>> and how they impact the end-user.
> >>>>
> >>>> The language for 1194.25(d) and 1194.26(c) is the same and is as
> >>>> follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> When biometric forms of user identification or control
> >> are used, an
> >>>> alternative form of identification or activation, which does not
> >>>> require the user to possess particular biological
> >> characteristics,
> >>>> shall also be provided.
> >>>>
> >>>> The proposal is to remove the "or control" and "or activation"
> >>>> sections.
> >>>> This changes the language to focus on the Biometric
> >> identification
> >>>> element. The control element would then need to be
> >> integrated into
> >>>> the overall controls discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thus, the new language would be:
> >>>>
> >>>> When biometric forms of user identification are used, an
> >>> alternative
> >>>> form of identification, which does not require the user
> >> to possess
> >>>> particular biological characteristics, shall also be provided.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please comment and discuss...
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob Nerhood | Experience Design Group | Ergonomics
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