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From: William A Curtis
Date: Thu, Jun 07 2007 7:15 AM

Debbie:

I agree with Aubrey that the term "particular user group" needs to be
defined. I believe the best place to do this would be Sub-Part A:
Definitions, not in Functional Performance Criteria (FPC). While there's
clearly a link between a definition of "particular user group" and the FPC
(even in the way this candidate definition is written), I don't think we
should leave it up to inference on the part of the audience.

So, perhaps have something like this in the Sub-Part A: Definitions
(pardon me if I missed this definition elsewhere in SubPart A or if
inclusion or exclusion of such a definition has already been discussed):

User Group
Groups of persons who directly benefit from EIT accessibility, and who
have one or more kinds of the following impairments as a result of
disability or age: low or limited vision, blindness, mobility or dexterity
impairments, hard of hearing, deafness, speech impairments, seizure
disorders, and cognitive or language impairments. Such groups typically
use Assistive Technologies to access and effectively use EIT.

... and then a minor edit to the proposed definition to read:

If assistive technology for a particular user group (defined in Sub-Part
A: Definitions) cannot be used to access any functionality of a hardware
or software product, then comparable access to the functionality of that
product that meets the Functional Performance Criteria must be provided
for that user group without using AT. (Headsets for private listening are
not considered AT).

Hope this helps!
BILL




William A. (Bill) Curtis-Davidson Jr.
Accessibility Business Development & Solutions
IBM Research: Human Ability & Accessibility Center
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We have used the functional performance criteria to roughly define the
user
groups. So, something like this:

If assistive technology for a particular user group cannot be used to
access
any functionality of a hardware or software product, then comparable
access
to the functionality of that product that meets the functional performance

criteria must be provided for that user group without using AT. (Headsets

for private listening are not considered AT).

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Hi Debbie,

Re: the proposed 1194.25(a) edit-

If assistive technology for a particular user group cannot be used to
access
any functionality of a hardware or software product, then comparable
access
to the functionality of that product must be provided for that user group
without using AT. (Headsets for private listening are not considered AT).

My only comment is about the term "user group". As a manufacturer, in
order to evaluate whether a product met this criteria, we would need some
examples of what user groups/disabilities are meant to be considered here.


This could be addressed in a Guide to the Standards type document- though
we would need some clarification either through the updated standard
itself or through the US Access Board.

Aubrey

Aubrey Woolley
Government Policy and Compliance Analyst
Government Marketing Division
Canon USA, Inc.
TEL: (703) 807-3158
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For discussion and editing:

Old version:
Self contained products shall be usable by people with disabilities
without
requiring an end-user to attach assistive technology to the product.
Personal headsets for private listening are not assistive technology.

Draft version:
If any functionality of a hardware or software product is closed for any
reason, including hardware, setting or policy, such that assistive
technology for a particular user group cannot be used with the product,
then
the product functionality must be fully usable by that group without AT.
(Headsets for private listening are not considered AT).

Discussion:
Feedback that the proposed language is confusing. Here's a stab at an edit

which may also assist with the definition:

If assistive technology for a particular user group cannot be used to
access
any functionality of a hardware or software product, then comparable
access
to the functionality of that product must be provided for that user group
without using AT. (Headsets for private listening are not considered AT).


Debbie Cook
WA Assistive Technology Program
Box 357920
Seattle, WA 98195-7920
Phone: 206-685-4181

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