Thread Subject: Re: Animation

From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2007 10:10 PM

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Yes it is a learning disability. So it is part of
Cognitive,language,learning that we just call cognitive.

I also agree that we aren't really getting our hands on the cognitive area
very well.


Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Peter Korn
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:25 PM
> To: TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] Animation
>
> Hi Gregg,
>
> Knowing folks with attentional issues, this makes some sense to me.
>
> Are we putting this into the larger category of cognitive
> impairments, or are attentional disorders considered distinct
> from cognitive impairments? I ask in part because I don't
> believe we have been asked to address attentional disorders
> per se. Also, I still don't feel like I/we have a good sense
> of the specific set of things we should be doing/not doing to
> meet the needs of folks with cognitive impairments.
> I don't remember animation disabling as one of the specific
> recommendations from Dr. Clayton Lewis.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Korn
> Accessibility Architect,
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
>
> > People with attention deficit problems.
> >
> > For copying windows though - you can cover it with what you
> are working on
> > so that isn't a showstopper. If built into what you are
> working on -
> > though it is a problem.
> >
> >
> > Gregg
> > -- ------------------------------
> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:teitac-
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Peter Korn
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:12 PM
> >> To: TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee
> >> Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] Animation
> >>
> >> Hi Gregg,
> >>
> >> In the case of the flying pages animation in the Windows
> copy dialog,
> >> for what disability/disabilities is stopping the animation
> important?
> >> Cognitive disabilities that might find them confusing? Screen
> >> magnifier users who might find them confusing/distracting? Screen
> >> reader users whose screen reader might have technical
> problems with
> >> their off-screen model graphics interdiction techniques?
> Something else?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Peter Korn
> >> Accessibility Architect,
> >> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >>> We looked at this issue for some time in the ANSI/HFES and ISO
> >>> software standards work Here is what we came down to.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If the image does not move except to provide an indication of
> >>> current
> >>>
> >> status
> >>
> >>> value then it is an indicator - not an animation. The
> progress bar
> >>>
> >> when
> >>
> >>> windows comes out of hibernation is a status indicator.
> >>>
> >>> If the image sits there and spins then it is not an indicator of
> >>> status value.
> >>>
> >>> So the windows copy progress indicator contains both a status
> >>> indicator
> >>>
> >> (the
> >>
> >>> bar) which is not animation and some flying file pages that are
> >>>
> >> animation.
> >>
> >>> The flying file pages should be an animation and it should be
> >>> possible
> >>>
> >> to
> >>
> >>> stop them or remove them from view.
> >>>
> >>> In the copy indicator situation it is possible to hide them so I
> >>> don't
> >>>
> >> see a
> >>
> >>> problem there.
> >>>
> >>> If someone did that as a built in part of a browser window - that
> >>> would
> >>>
> >> be a
> >>
> >>> problem. But the built in progress indicators on file
> tabs or the
> >>>
> >> bottom
> >>
> >>> of the window are not animation but progress indicators.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gregg
> >>> -- ------------------------------
> >>> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
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> >>>> Greg Fields
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:30 AM
> >>>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >>>> Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] Animation
> >>>>
> >>>> With respect to "informational animation" and "decorative
> >>>> animation", how do we see animated gifs used during load/startup
> >>>> screens?
> >>>>
> >>>> Example - the circular animated gif used during bootup
> sequence in
> >>>> OSX.
> >>>> This animation could be seen as conveying progress to
> users, could
> >>>> be seen as only aesthetic without functionality, yet does not
> >>>> provide "users a means to pause and restart the animation" or "a
> >>>> means to stop the animation".
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Greg Fields
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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