Thread Subject: Re: Definition of video description

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From: David Poehlman
Date: Wed, Jun 27 2007 1:10 PM

good!

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From: "geoff freed" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Definition of video description



I removed it from the first sentence-- the currently published
wording is "The insertion of verbal or auditory description(s)...."
Defining video description with the word "description" didn't look
right. Given the latest changes, the paragraph now reads like this:

VIDEO DESCRIPTION
The insertion of verbal information intended to reveal important
visual details that are not contained or that cannot be understood
from the main audio output alone. Video descriptions supplement the
regular audio track of the program and are usually inserted into
pauses in the dialog or narration to
provide information about actions, characters and on-screen text that
appears without verbalization. Video descriptions are a way to let
people who are blind, visually impaired or cannot otherwise see the
screen know what is happening on the screen.

How's that?

Geoff/NCAM




On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:35 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

> I thought we'd dropped the word description somewhere though?
>
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> To: "TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Definition of video description
>
>
> No, needs the word verbal not just audio.
>
> VIDEO DESCRIPTION
> The insertion of verbal content intended to reveal important visual
> details that are not contained or that cannot be understood from the
> main audio output alone. Video descriptions supplement the regular
> audio track of the program and are usually inserted into pauses in the
> dialog or narration to provide information about actions,
> characters and
> on-screen text that appears without verbalization. Video descriptions
> are a way to let people who are blind, visually impaired or cannot
> otherwise see the screen know what is happening on the screen.
>
>
>
> Allen Hoffman -- = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; v: 202-447-0303
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of geoff freed
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:21 PM
> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Definition of video description
>
>
> Whoops. Try this:
>
> VIDEO DESCRIPTION
> The insertion of audio intended to reveal important visual details
> that
> are not contained or that cannot be understood from the main audio
> output alone. Video descriptions supplement the regular audio
> track of
> the program and are usually inserted into pauses in the dialog or
> narration to provide information about actions, characters and on-
> screen
> text that appears without verbalization. Video descriptions are a way
> to let people who are blind, visually impaired or cannot otherwise see
> the screen know what is happening on the screen.
>
> Geoff/NCAM
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:12 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>> "between dialog"?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "geoff freed" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> To: "TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Definition of video description
>>
>>
>>
>>> I would change the last "to let those whose ability to view the
>>> screen is impaired", that is, it is a functional restriction (their
>>> eyes may be busy elsewhere, for example) rather than solely a
>>> question of blindness etc.
>>
>> It seems a bit odd to leave out "blind or visually impaired," but I
>> think we should include language about anyone else who can't see the
>> screen, as Dave suggests. How about...
>>
>> "Video descriptions are a way to let people who are blind, visually
>> impaired or cannot otherwise see the screen know what is happening on
>> the screen."
>>
>> Regarding the whole definition, I'd like to avoid using the word
>> "description" in the first sentence. Taking this, Dave's suggestion
>> and Larry's previous comments into account, the new paragraph would
>> read...
>>
>> VIDEO DESCRIPTION
>> The insertion of audio intended to reveal important visual details
>> that are not contained or that cannot be understood from the main
>> audio output alone. Video descriptions supplement the regular audio
>> track of the program and are usually inserted between dialog to
>> provide information about actions, characters and on-screen text that
>> appears without verbalization. Video descriptions are a way to let
>> people who are blind, visually impaired or cannot otherwise see the
>> screen know what is happening on the screen.
>>
>> Yes? No?
>>
>> Geoff/NCAM
>>
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Dave Singer wrote:
>>
>>> At 16:20 -0400 26/06/07, Larry Goldberg wrote:
>>>> We have been asked by the Editorial Working Group to consider and
>>>> accept or amend the existing Subpart A definition of "video
>>>> description".
>>>> Here's what
>>>> it presently says:
>>>>
>>>> VIDEO DESCRIPTION
>>>> The insertion of verbal or auditory description(s) of on-screen
>>>> visuals intended to describe important visual details that are not
>>>> contained or that cannot be understood from the main audio output
>>>> alone. Video descriptions supplement the regular audio track of the
>>>> program and are usually inserted between dialogue narration to
>>>> provide information about actions, characters, and on-screen text
>>>> that appears without verbalization. Video descriptions are a way to
>>>> let people who are blind or have low vision know what is happening
>>>> on screen.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would change the last "to let those whose ability to view the
>>> screen is impaired", that is, it is a functional restriction (their
>>> eyes may be busy elsewhere, for example) rather than solely a
>>> question of blindness etc.
>>>
>>> Also, in the computer space it is not necessarily true that the
>>> normal audio would then be left enabled; turning on description of
>>> video might cause a "reduced" audio track to be used, to make
>>> time/space for the description. It might (probably would, in some
>>> cases) have a lot less background music and noise also, for example.
>>> --
>>> David Singer
>>> Apple/QuickTime
>>>

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