Thread Subject: Re: teitac-video immersive envoironements

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From: Peter Korn
Date: Wed, Jun 27 2007 2:45 PM

Hi Kate,

Is there any reason to call these environments out separately from other
web applications, or from software in general? It seems to me that all
of the standards we have been developing apply quite well to these
environments. The only potential I see for change in them is around
1194.21(d)/3c given the significant use of 3D. Sean did a lot to raise
2.5D and 3D issues in our discussions around 1194.21(d)/3c, so we may
already have that issue covered.


Regards,

Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.

> The question about immersive environments such as SecondLife has been
> passed to our web and software subcommittee for consideration as the AV
> subcommittee feels it's out of scope for AV.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jasionowski,
> Tony
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:15 AM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive envoironements
>
> Folks,
> Agreed "immersive environments" such as "Secondlife" are beyond the
> scope of the AV subcommittee and are best addressed by possibly the
> Software subcommittee assuming they have the time to deal with it.
> Tony Jasionowski
> Panasonic
>
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:42:05 -0700
> From: "Andrew Kirkpatrick" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
> To: "TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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> Sure - Audio / video is just linear. Secondlife and other similar
> environments are not audio/video, although they could contain audio and
> video. It is software.
> AWK
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
>> Gregg Vanderheiden
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:02 PM
>> To: 'TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee'
>> Cc: 'Mike Paciello'
>> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
>>
>> Actually I would think immersive environments would be more
>> dynamic content than AV. No?
>>
>>
>> Gregg
>> -- ------------------------------
>> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Larry
>>> Goldberg
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:02 PM
>>> To: TEITAC AV list
>>> Cc: Mike Paciello
>>> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
>>>
>>> I have to agree with Tony - in fact this is such a new and emerging
>>> and cross-cutting area, I think the committee as a whole
>>>
>> should tackle
>>
>>> it together - perhaps at the next face-to-face.
>>>
>>> - Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> Jasionowski, Tony wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kate,
>>>> At this stage of our process I do not think that our AV
>>>>
>>> subcommittee
>>>
>>>> can realistically tackle such "immersive environments"
>>>>
>>> considering the
>>>
>>>> other work we have remaining. Possibly one of the other
>>>>
>>> subcommittees
>>>
>>>> might have interest in tackling "immersive environments".
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Tony Jasionowski
>>>> Panasonic
>>>> AV Co-Chair
>>>>
>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:06 -0400
>>>> From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>>> Subject: Re: [teitac-video]
>>>> [teitac-general][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility of Second
>>>>
>>> Life and
>>>
>>>> related applications
>>>> To: "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
>>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Web/Software
>>>>
>>> Subcommittee"
>>>
>>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Audio/Video
>>>> Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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>>>>
>>>> David Poehlman wrote:
>>>> These environments are not accessible and should not be
>>>>
>> used by any
>>
>>>> federal agency or others bound by 508.
>>>>
>>>> Kate replies:
>>>> David, I agree that they do not meet Section 508 as is. I
>>>>
>> wonder if
>>
>>>> there are ways to make the underlying data accessible or
>>>>
>>> ways for us
>>>
>>>> to ensure there are standards that address this type of
>>>>
>> technology
>>
>>>> moving forward, to help promote accessibility. To date, we
>>>>
>>> didn't stop
>>>
>>>> looking at or considering the use of technologies just
>>>>
>> because they
>>
>>>> weren't accessible at the time, but rather looked to see
>>>>
>> whether we
>>
>>>> could make the underlying data accessible somehow and ultimately
>>>> provide an accessible format.
>>>>
>>>> Since sending my original note, I've learned that there is now a
>>>> version that has audio capabilities - I'm not certain
>>>>
>>> whether it just
>>>
>>>> tells the user what is happening or enables speech input as
>>>>
>>> well. Still checking.
>>>
>>>> I've added the video subcommittee to the distribution list
>>>>
>>> as well -
>>>
>>>> accidentally left them off original send.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kate
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
>>>>
>> Of David
>>
>>>> Poehlman
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:44 AM
>>>> To: TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee; TEITAC
>>>> Web/Software Subcommittee
>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>> [teitac-general][teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
>>>> ofSecond Lifeand related applications
>>>>
>>>> These environments are not accessible and should not be
>>>>
>> used by any
>>
>>>> federal agency or others bound by 508.
>>>>
>

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