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From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Thu, Jul 26 2007 2:50 AM
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Verbal just means words. This email is verbal. The menus on screen are
verbal. (so is braille)
I think you mean "vocal" or "spoken" or something. But verbal is wrong
word if you want people who are blind to hear them.
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Larry Goldberg
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:41 PM
> To: TEITAC AV list
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] 6.3e
>
> Whitney,
>
> Looks like we have general agreement for the new "truncated"
> language as indicated below. Can you post this in your doc?
>
> - Larry
>
>
> Larry Goldberg wrote:
>
> > How would it work if we truncated the requirement like this?:
> >
> > 6.3-E - Interactive Elements
> > All "multimedia" containing interactive elements, such as menus for
> > selection and access to segments of the content, that are
> part of the
> > content MUST include verbal equivalents for menu selections.
> >
> > - Larry
> >
> >
> > Hoffman, Allen wrote:
> >
> >> Larry Goldberg wrote:
> >> 6.3-E - Interactive Elements
> >> Recent Unresolved Discussion regarding 6.3-E - Interactive
> Elements:
> >> 6.3-E - Interactive Elements
> >> All materials containing interactive elements that are part of the
> >> content must comply with 1194.21 [a-z] as well as 1194.24 a-e.
> >>
> >> While I think this language points where we want to go, it doesn't
> >> plainly say that for menus, audio equivalents must be provided as
> >> focus moves. Note, this is really critical for when the
> content is
> >> coming from a closed media, or being used on a closed playback
> >> device. there must be a simpler way to say this so that
> this meaning
> >> is clear. I think there may be distinction between
> read-only media
> >> content and more read/write interactive content here, for
> example, a
> >> flash e-learning course delivered with multimedia over the
> web must
> >> meet the content, web, and software standards, which in
> theory include a/v requirements.
> >> In the spirit of creating general function-based technical
> >> requirements, then moving to any specific requirements for
> narrowly
> >> scoped subsets, I would like to prose that the 6.3E item is either
> >> kept as is, and additional more media specific provisions
> drafted, or
> >> we incorporate some specific media-specific language into it.
> >>
> >> Here are some problems I see with just saying interactive elements
> >> must meet software requirements:
> >> They have to meet closed requirements primarily, as closed
> media is
> >> closed due to playback device primarily.
> >> software contains requirements specifically related to
> accessibility
> >> services on platforms, these don't match reality of
> playback systems
> >> today.
> >>
> >> So:
> >> rewrite of 6.3E might be:
> >> 6.3-E - Interactive Elements
> >> All "multimedia" containing interactive elements, such as
> menus for
> >> selection and access to segments of the content, that are part of
> >> the content MUST include verbal equivalents for menu
> selections, and
> >> must comply with 1194.21 [a-z] as well as 1194.24 a-e.
> >>
> >> Note, this would make my concern plainly addressed if we then work
> >> with web/software/content to nail down the final standards in that
> >> section that have to be complied with more carefully.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Allen Hoffman -- = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; v: 202-447-0303
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Larry
> >> Goldberg
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:04 PM
> >> To: TEITAC AV list
> >> Subject: [teitac-video] AV Meeting today - 3pm ET
> >> Importance: High
> >>
> >> Agenda:
> >>
> >> resolve 4-A:
> >> 4. Additional Provisions for Audio-Visual Content or
> Players/Displays
> >> 4.1.A Caption Playback
> >>
> >> 6.3-E - Interactive Elements
> >> Recent Unresolved Discussion regarding 6.3-E - Interactive
> Elements:
> >> 6.3-E - Interactive Elements
> >> All materials containing interactive elements that are part of the
> >> content must comply with 1194.21 [a-z] as well as 1194.24 a-e.
> >>
> >>
> >> PHONE BRIDGE (supplied by Adobe):
> >> Meeting id#: 107147
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> >> 1-800-64-219 (Australia)
> >> 44-20-8608-1105 (London)
> >>
> >> Alternatively, dial into a local office and transfer to x69900
> >> 353-1-433-6790 (Dublin) 81-3-5740-2600 (Tokyo)
> >> 91-120-2444711 (Noida)
> >>
> >>
> >> FEDERAL RELAY CONFERENCE CAPTIONING FOR July 25, 2007:
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> >>
> >> - Larry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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