Thread Subject: Re: WCAG 1.3.3 language addition - myactionitemfrom a few weeks ago

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From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Fri, Aug 24 2007 8:25 AM

Hmm

Don't think it would cover it.

I don't think so.
The text is supposed to server the function. So if you had a magnifying
glass in a triangle for your search button - the alt text should say
"search"

Then if in your instructions you said press the triangular button below....



Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Hoffman, Allen
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:54 AM
> To: TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] WCAG 1.3.3 language
> addition - myactionitemfrom a few weeks ago
>
> I wonder if the old 1194.22(a) addresses this sufficiently?
> All the items described must have alternate text assigned to
> them, and if the shape, size, etc are important they should
> be in the descriptions.
>
>
>
>
> Allen Hoffman -- = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; v: 202-447-0303
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Loretta Guarino Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:24 PM
> To: TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] WCAG 1.3.3 language
> addition - my actionitemfrom a few weeks ago
>
> WCAG means "rely on". Color, shape, or position can be
> helpful descriptions in instructions, as long as they are not
> the only means of identification.
>
> Loretta
>
> On 8/8/07, Peter Korn < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Hi Sailesh,
> >
> > The first sentence comes directly from WCAG 2.0, and so our friends
> > from WAI are perhaps in the best position to answer this.
> >
> > Personally, I think we should strongly discourage folks
> from needing
> > to use this provision. The cases in which instructions (or
> worse, the
>
> > content itself) needs to rely on shape, size, location,
> orientation,
> > etc. should be *vanishingly* small.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Korn
> > Accessibility Architect,
> > Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> >
> > >> "Instructions provided for understanding and operating
> content do
> > >> not rely on shape, size, visual location, or orientation of
> components.
> > >> Additional information for use by assistive technologies
> - such as
> > >> alternate text to describe necessary visual cues for
> understanding
> > >> and operating the content, or programmatic encoding of
> > >> relationships between objects that is necessary for
> understanding
> > >> and operating the content, is sufficient."
> > >>
> > > Comments:
> > > Does this mean : Instructions themselves do not rely on shape,
> > > location, etc. of components Or, does it mean:
> > > The insttructions do not reference the shape, location, etc. of
> components?
> > >
> > > Sailesh Panchang
> > > Senior Accessibility Engineer
> > > Deque Systems Inc. (www.deque.com)
> > > 11130 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite #140, Reston VA 20191
> > > Phone: 703-225-0380 (ext 105)
> > > E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >

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