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From: Sailesh Panchang
Date: Fri, Aug 24 2007 3:30 PM
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>I tested screen readers with several documents that included links. Screen
>readers could list links in the formats that I tried. I'm sure it may not
>work for all formats, but provision 3M for link purpose is supported on
>more than the Web.
You are right and I indeed do use links list and headings-list to navigate
within a Word doc or PDF doc if links / headings are present. But the
"purpose of links" provision is chiefly directed at Click here / Read more/
Go type of links which are all over on Websites. One seldom finds them in
documents. That provision is clearly intended for Web pages where as Andi
pointed out, Page Up and Page down or go to page# type of navigation is
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Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] 3 Web Only provisions
I tested screen readers with several documents that included links. Screen
readers could list links in the formats that I tried. I'm sure it may not
work for all formats, but provision 3M for link purpose is supported on
more than the Web.
Shannon Rapuano, IBM Accessibility Center
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> The "consistent identification" one is an error. It should say simply
> "Components which have the same functionality must be identified
> consistently." 
> As to the other two, we went through every provision discussing whether
> applied to Web, Software, and documents in general. In that discussion,
> concluded that the other two are really only applicable to Web pages.
> Since a document is a single entity, what would repeated blocks mean? I
> suppose if you have a collection of files that go together and have a
> of contents at the beginning of each one, being able to skip the TOC
> be useful. But in word processing documents, keyboard users do not have
> tab through all the links. They can just page down to get past the table
> The purpose of the link purpose provision is to accommodate screen
> that provide a list of links out of context. But our understanding was
> they only do that on Web pages. So we concluded that we did not need to
> mandate this requirement for documents in general when it is only an
> on Web pages.
> "Hoffman, Allen"
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> 08/22/2007 11:11 Re: [teitac-websoftware] 3 Web
> AM provisions
> Please respond to
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> I think the idea was to merge web and all other formats into a single set
> of requirements if possible, but we should probably make sure to do a
> through this and if there are items specifically only for content encoded
> and rendered HTML and whatever combination of other encodings we deem
> "web", then they should be noted as such specifically.
> Good catch.
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> Subject: [teitac-websoftware] 3 Web Only provisions
> If I am reading the wording of the current draft properly, there are
> 3 provisions that apply only to Web.
> They are
> 3-H (Consistent Identification),
> 3-L (repeated blocks) and
> 3-M (link purpose)
> Others are to documents in general.
> Should these be for Web Pages Only? Or electronic documents as well.
> Suggest - that they be expanded to electronic documents as well.
> they might be documents with hyperlink capability or some such - though
> that can be self regulating since if there are no links there is no ).
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