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From: Tom Brett
Date: Wed, Aug 29 2007 1:25 PM

877-220-5439
107147

Is the same number that has always been used...


Tom Brett


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Sean Hayes
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:12 PM
To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Today's call in info

I get a French voice announcing that its not free, and no option to get in
otherwise

Sean Hayes
Incubation Lab
Accessibility Business Unit
Microsoft

Office: +44 118 909 5867,
Mobile: +44 7875 091385


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Andrew
Kirkpatrick
Sent: 29 August 2007 20:09
To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Today's call in info

Geez - I can't imagine why not. Can you try the US number again?

AWK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Sean Hayes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:08 PM
> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Today's call in info
>
> None of these numbers work for me
>
> Sean Hayes
> Incubation Lab
> Accessibility Business Unit
> Microsoft
>
> Office: +44 118 909 5867,
> Mobile: +44 7875 091385
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
> Sent: 29 August 2007 20:02
> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> Subject: [teitac-video] Today's call in info
>
> Meeting id#: 107147
> 1-877-220-5439 (US) 877-220-5439
107147
> 1-800-64-219 (Australia)
> 44-20-8608-1105 (London)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of James
> > Elekes
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:00 PM
> > To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> > Subject: [teitac-video] Info for Today's Telecon Not on TEITAC
> > Site--Please Respond/Post
> >
> > At 11:35 AM 8/29/2007, you wrote:
> > >I see. Hmmmm
> > >
> > >OK How about -
> > >
> > > - all platforms (flash, avi, mov etc) have a standard way of
> > > providing captions
> > >
> > > - For content - Captions must be provided in that format
> > >
> > > - For players that play that format - they must
> display captions
> > > AND either have an easy way to turn them on (even if embedded in
> > > content) or play them OPEN (always on).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Gregg
> > > -- ------------------------------
> > >Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> > Schomburg,
> > >Paul
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:34 AM
> > >To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> > >Subject: Re: [teitac-video] FW: Revised proposal for Sec.
> > >4.AdditionalProvisions for Audio-Visual Players or Displays
> > >Greg: These are good questions; unfortunately I'm not aware of a
> > >closed caption standard that could be applied today to all
> personal
> > >video products. I don't know any other way to handle this
> > except on an
> > >agency-by-agency basis.
> > >
> > >Without a unified standard, interoperability would be handled by
> > >content authoring tools that would support conversion among
> > different
> > >timed text metadata. Thus a broadcast video content encoded
> > with 708
> > >could be re-encoded with a different time text standard when being
> > >deployed for mobile devices. That's why we added:
> > >"Support interoperability and conversion between other
> > common caption
> > >formats such as CEA 608, CEA 708, or Timed Text (e.g. DFXP)."
> > >
> > >Thanks, Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Gregg
> > >Vanderheiden
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:19 PM
> > >To: 'TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee'
> > >Subject: Re: [teitac-video] FW: Revised proposal for Sec. 4.
> > >AdditionalProvisions for Audio-Visual Players or Displays
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Couple questions about the part where you changed it to "Uses this
> > >standard... Captions or timed text (as defined by procuring
> > >agency) or display open caption video"
> > >
> > >
> > >- How would you get interoperability if each agency picks its own
> > >standards?
> > >- Will purchasing agents have any idea what to specify?
> > >- And how would a mfgr know how to design products if they
> > don't know
> > >what standard will apply until the get the P.O.?
> > >
> > >Maybe I'm missing something
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >Gregg
> > > -- ------------------------------
> > >Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> > Schomburg,
> > >Paul
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:49 PM
> > >To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> > >Subject: [teitac-video] FW: Revised proposal for Sec. 4.
> > >AdditionalProvisions for Audio-Visual Players or Displays
> > >Folks: I am forwarding this without the attachments in
> > order to allow
> > >timely review. The attachments may come through later after
> > the TEITAC
> > >AV email list moderator approves my post, which apparently
> > exceeded the
> > >maximum size limit due to the attachments.
> > >
> > >Best regards, Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: Schomburg, Paul
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:26 PM
> > >To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> > >Cc: Schomburg, Paul
> > >Subject: Revised proposal for Sec. 4. Additional Provisions for
> > >Audio-Visual Players or Displays
> > >
> > >Folks: In response to comments on today's call we are providing a
> > >revised draft for tomorrow's discussion (see below proposed
> > text). To
> > >help everyone's understanding I have attached in MS-Word clean and
> > >redlined versions of the proposal. The redline shows
> > differences from
> > >the EWG draft at:
> > ><http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Aug_17#4._Additional_Provis
> ions_for_A
> > >udio-Visual_Players_or_Displays>http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Dr
> aft_Aug_17
> > >#4._Additional_Provisions_for_Audio-Visual_Players_or_Displays
> > >
> > >Since the feedback we received today indicated that a "readily
> > >achievable" clause could not be used I have changed the
> section for
> > >personal video devices to leave the selection of closed
> > caption or time
> > >text standard up to the procuring agency or to allow use of open
> > >captions. I have also removed references to screen sizes.
> > >
> > >Best regards, Paul
> > >-------------
> > >4. Additional Provisions for Audio-Visual Players or
> Displays 4-A -
> > >Caption Playback Analog television, digital television and tuners,
> > >computer equipment, and other equipment must provide
> closed and open
> > >captions:
> > >1. Equipment of this type:
> > >Analog television displays that measure 13 inches or more
> diagonally
> > >Computer equipment that includes analog television receiver
> > or display
> > >circuitry Uses this standard:
> > >CEA 608
> > >To provide these functions:
> > >Receive, decode and display signals from broadcast cable satellite
> > >Optical disc, videotape, and other recorded media other
> > recorded media
> > >2. Equipment of this type:
> > >Wide-screen (16:9) digital television (DTV) displays
> > measuring at least
> > >7.8 inches vertically DTV sets with conventional (4:3) displays
> > >measuring at least 13 inches diagonally Stand-alone DTV
> > tuners, whether
> > >or not they are marketed with display screens Computer
> > equipment that
> > >includes DTV receiver or display circuitry Uses this standard:
> > >CEA 708
> > >To provide these functions:
> > >Receive, decode and display signals from:
> > > * broadcast
> > > * cable
> > > * satellite
> > > * Optical disc, videotape, and other recorded media
> > > * IPTV
> > >OR
> > >Decode data, when available, and pass a decoded
> > >("open-captioned") video signal to the DTV display or monitor 3.
> > >Equipment of this type:
> > >Other digital video source products without broadcast reception
> > >capability, such as video playback products for removable
> media (e.g.
> > >optical disc, tape, flash memory, etc.), IP-enabled video playback
> > >products for downloaded or streaming video content, and
> media player
> > >software, that is procured for the purpose of displaying
> > video on a DTV
> > >display or monitor Uses this standard:
> > >CEA 708 or timed text with functionality equivalent [or
> > comparable] to
> > >CEA-708 (see end-note for definition of functional equivalent) To
> > >provide these functions:
> > >Pass CEA-708 caption data, when available, to the caption decoding
> > >circuitry of DTV displays OR Decode caption data, when
> > available, and
> > >pass a decoded ("open-captioned") video signal to the DTV
> display or
> > >monitor.
> > >
> > >4. Equipment of this type...
> > >Personal video display products with an integrated display
> > and without
> > >broadcast reception capability.
> > >
> > >Uses this standard...
> > >Captions or timed text (as defined by procuring
> > >agency) or display open caption video
> > >
> > >To provide these functions...
> > >- Decode caption data or timed text,
> > >when available, for viewing on the integrated display
> > >
> > >Material for inclusion in the additional notes document:
> > >TEITAC definition of "Functional Equivalent" to CEA 708
> > Equivalent text
> > >display functionalities must:
> > >Support caption placement control by caption authors for any
> > position
> > >within the TV safe area.
> > >Support standard, large, and small caption sizes and must
> allow the
> > >caption author to choose a size and allow the viewer to choose an
> > >alternative size.
> > >Support eight font variations. Caption authors may specify
> > one of these
> > >eight font styles to be used to write caption text.
> Equivalents must
> > >include the ability for users to choose among the eight fonts. The
> > >equivalent must display the font chosen by the caption
> author unless
> > >the user chooses a different font.
> > >Support the eight font styles defined as
> > >follows: default (undefined), monospaced with serifs (similar to
> > >Courier), proportionally spaced with serifs (similar to Times New
> > >Roman), monospaced without serifs (similar to Helvetica
> Monospaced),
> > >proportionally spaced without serifs (similar to Arial and Swiss),
> > >casual font type (similar to Dom and Impress), cursive font type
> > >(similar to Coronet and Marigold), and small capitals (similar to
> > >Engravers Gothic).
> > >Support author and user choice of eight character foreground
> > and eight
> > >character background colors: white, black, red, green,
> blue, yellow,
> > >magenta and cyan).
> > >Support author and user selection of character and
> > background opacity
> > >options: SOLID, TRANSLUCENT, TRANSPARENT [FLASH option
> > deleted] Support
> > >options for altering the appearance of caption character edges.
> > >Support the authoring and selection of the six caption
> services, but
> > >information from only one service need be displayed at a
> given time.
> > >Include an option that permits a user to choose a setting
> that will
> > >display captions as intended by the caption provider (a default).
> > >Equivalents must also include an option that allows a
> > viewer's chosen
> > >settings to remain until the viewer chooses to alter these
> settings,
> > >including during periods when the video source device is
> powered off.
> > >Multimedia content creation products and/or software must:
> > >Support the creation of equivalent text display functionalities as
> > >listed above Support interoperability and conversion between other
> > >common caption formats such as CEA 608, CEA 708, or Timed
> Text (e.g.
> > >DFXP).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

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