Thread Subject: Re: audio-description definition

From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 9:35 AM

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The term 'audio description' is already used in the 'video description'
definition. So the term would be found on a search.

Because we have it in the definition it would look strange in a note.

Hmmm
Also need to see what will actually fly in the CFR


Gregg
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Karen Peltz Strauss
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:53 AM
> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] audio-description definition
>
> I think this makes sense. In fact, we already note that
> TTYS are a form of
> text telephones, another term for TTYs.
>
> Karen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Tobias" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "'TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee'" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Cc: "'TEITAC Telecommunications Subcommittee'"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] audio-description definition
>
>
> >I agree about not defining terms we don't use, but I think
> there is value
> >in
> > indicating where alternate terms are sometimes used. We
> would not be
> > defining those alternate terms, just indicating to users of
> the document
> > that they may see another term sometimes used. Allen's
> point is also
> > strong: by mentioning the alternate term we are clearly
> stating that we
> > are
> > *not* using it in these regs. Consider the poor novice who
> searches the
> > document for "audio description", finds nothing, and
> reports to the boss
> > "I
> > guess it's not required, because it's not in there."
> >
> > So I suggest that our definition of "video description" end
> with "Video
> > description is sometimes referred to as 'audio
> description'." We could do
> > the same with the TTY definition: "TTYs are sometimes referred to as
> > Telecommunication Devices for the Deaf, or TDDs."
> >
> > ***
> > Jim Tobias
> > Inclusive Technologies
> > +1.732.441.0831 v/tty
> > +1.908.907.2387 mobile
> > skype jimtobias
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Karen Peltz Strauss [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:00 AM
> >> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
> >> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] audio-description definition
> >>
> >> I agree - policymakers generally do not define terms not used
> >> in the body of guidelines or regulations.
> >>
> >> Karen
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Larry Goldberg" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> To: "TEITAC AV list" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] audio-description definition
> >>
> >>
> >> > However, this point of view must be considered:
> >> >
> >> > In standards you only define terms in definition section
> >> that you actually
> >> > use.
> >> >
> >> > We use the term video description in our definition - so
> >> that is what we
> >> > define, as it appears in the latest draft:
> >> >
> >> > Video Description
> >> >
> >> > The insertion of verbal or auditory description(s) of
> >> on-screen visuals
> >> > intended to describe important visual details that are not
> >> contained in,
> >> > or
> >> > that cannot be understood from, the main audio output
> alone. Video
> >> > descriptions supplement the regular audio track of the
> >> program and are
> >> > usually inserted between dialogue narration to provide
> >> information about
> >> > actions, characters, and on-screen text that appear without
> >> verbalization.
> >> > Video descriptions are a way to let people who are blind or
> >> have low
> >> > vision
> >> > know what is happening on screen.
> >> >
> >> > ... Larry ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hoffman, Allen wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't think we use the term audio-description, but
> shouldn't we
> >> >> recommend that the term be included in the definitions
> >> section to point
> >> >> to video-description to make it clear that we use the
> >> other term. both
> >> >> terms are widely used, so clarifying that we are using one
> >> of them would
> >> >> seem helpful to me.
> >> >>
> >> >> Allen Hoffman -- DHS Office on Accessible Systems & Technology
> >> >>

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