Thread Subject: Re: A modest proposal
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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 12:45 PM
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I can control caption size with CSS in Flash video...
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> Larry Goldberg
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> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] A modest proposal
> Side-point regarding tech aspect - I don't believe CSS can
> change the size of caption text embedded within digital media.
> ... Larry ...
> Dave Singer wrote:
> > At 18:43 -0700 17/09/07, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:
> >> I don't agree that software media players need to provide
> the caption
> >> size options, since the environment already allows
> additional sizing
> >> options through resizing of the player and/or using full
> screen mode.
> >> Nor do I agree that solid or opaque, translucent,
> transparent options
> >> are wise to require. Some of these options present technical
> >> barriers implementation in some software environments due
> to the way
> >> text is created, and nor are they part of any players
> presently any
> >> more than the user control of text resizing is.
> >> I'm concerned that as written, people will instead choose
> to deliver
> >> a separate version of the video with open captions (or
> just an open
> >> captioned version) and allow no user control at all -- which would
> >> still be fully compliant.
> >> AWK
> > I agree. I think the software player market is much too
> fluid to be
> > specifying things as closely as saying that you have to offer three
> > (only 3? as much as 3?) sizes or these specific display options.
> > For software players, it may well be that they are, for example,
> > embedded in a context (e.g. a web page or player) which means that
> > caption data can be displayed alongside the video and
> doesn't need to
> > obscure it at all. Under those circumstances, 'transparent' is
> > irrelevant, and CSS deals with sizing and so on much better than
> > having a 3-way caption-size switch.
> > In the software player realm, the requirements should be much more
> > explicit about the effect that is required: accessibility for those
> > who have problems seeing or hearing -- and much less firm about
> > mandating particular solutions.
> - Larry