Thread Subject: Re: Independent - top level - Caption Control

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From: Dave Singer
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 1:05 PM

At 14:57 -0400 19/09/07, James Elekes wrote:
>Greg,
>
>Hmmm. Let's not forget those of us who are blind/low vision. Where
>"Descriptive Video" is available, it's next to impossible to figure
>out how to activate unless you have a sighted individual who can assist.

I was going to say that the means to turn on an accessibility option
MUST be accessible to those needing the option.

>
>-Jim
>
>James J. Elekes, Chairperson
>Telecommunications, Electronic/Information Technologies Committee
>United States Access Board
>
>At 02:49 PM 9/19/2007, you wrote:
>>How about if we change this to
>>
>>
>>For systems which include caption decoding functionality where captions can
>>be turned on and off must include an independent control for turning
>>captions on and off at the same level as the control for mute.
>>
>>a) products with remotes which include a mute button must also include an
>>independent captioning button on the remote.
>>
>>b) products which provide mute function via menu must provide a means for
>>turning captions on and off at the highest level and the control must be
>>independent from the mute.
>>
>>Note: Having 'auto-caption on mute' is not prohibited as long as the
>>independent caption control can also turn captions on when mute is not
>>active.
>>
>>
>>
>>Gregg
>> -- ------------------------------
>>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
>> > Karen Peltz Strauss
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:11 PM
>> > To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
>> > Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Agenda for today's AV subcom meeting
>> >
>> > Access to captioning needs to be on the remote -- or where
>> > there is no remote, on the first level of menu options --
>> > because it is as essential to
>> > viewing by people who cannot hear as volume is to people who
>> > can hear. The
>> > ability to access captions has increasingly been buried in
>> > video equipment menus, making it difficult or impossible to
>> > watch captions even when they
>> > are put onto programming. Try going to a hotel (or
>> > hospitals) and turning
>> > on the captions. Where there is no captioning button on the
>> > remote you
>> > will find that this is a very challenging task.
>> >
>> > Karen
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dave Singer" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> > To: "TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:55 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Agenda for today's AV subcom meeting
>> >
>> >
>> > > At 12:56 -0400 11/09/07, Hoffman, Allen wrote:
>> > >>I think this reads worse than we want it to.
>> > >>
>> > >>In simple terms, people who are deaf want a "cc" button on
>> > the remote
>> > >>that turns on captioning for broadcast. Would this also turn on, or
>> > >>select, the captioning if this were connected to a media
>> > player? Its
>> > >>not quite as simple in this circumstance, so maybe we need
>> > to just limit
>> > >>this to:
>> > >>
>> > >>For systems which include caption decoding functionality
>> > and a remote
>> > >>control, a captioning button must be available on the remote that
>> > >>enables and disables captioning display from broadcast or
>> > other external
>> > >>inputs.
>> > >
>> > > Why must it be on the remote? Shouldn't the requirements
>> > say that if
>> > > there is an adaptation available, it must be possible for those who
>> > > need the adaptation to turn it on, or it must be on by default.
>> > > --
>> > > David Singer
>> > > Apple/QuickTime
>> > >

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