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From: Larry Goldberg
Date: Wed, Oct 10 2007 9:35 AM
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Dave's suggestion regarding a more generic, but strong, requirement for the
accessibility and usability of access controls bears serious consideration.
Let's do so at today's conference call.
... Larry ...
Dave Singer wrote:
> At 15:31 -0400 9/10/07, Larry Goldberg wrote:
>>
>> We will discuss today's Plenary meeting/conference call, suggested changes
>> to the enclosed draft, and hopefully come to a conclusion regarding the
>> "caption button"/"top-level menu" proposal.
>
> As worded, I really don't think I can -- or we should -- agree to
> these, unless they are restricted to 'classical analog television'.
> They are both making into mandates a question of the design of the
> system.
>
> The furthest we should go in this direction is a recommendation. We
> simply do not know how to design these products, and inserting a
> design mandate may well have a counter-productive effect:
> manufacturers who were willing to meet the spirit of the regulations,
> and provide accessible equipment, may well not wish to meet the
> letter of such a design mandate, and consequently (since they would
> no longer be able to claim compliance) do nothing.
>
> I am also wondering why the people needing captions need to have this
> explicit access method, but those (for example) needing audio
> description of video are left without even a guideline as to how it
> should be enabled?
>
> Finally, what happens to option (2) when the menus on a system are
> enabled some other way than pressing a menu button on a remote?
>
> So, trying again, I'd like to *broaden* the scope of the *mandate*
> while leaving product design only recommended:
>
> * * * * *
>
> For all accessibility options, including but not limited to Captions,
> and Audio Description of Video [or whatever the term we settled on
> is], the enabling and disabling of that accessibility option must
> also be readily accessible to those desiring it, meaning that the
> control must both be easy to find, and easily used by someone needing
> it.
>
> For captions, recommended approaches include:
> 1. A caption on/off button on the TV remote control;
> 2. Caption control(s) on the first menu that appears when on-screen
> menus are displayed;
- Larry
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