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From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Thu, Oct 11 2007 12:20 AM
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This is good but the examples will be dropped and the rest is pretty vague.
I would see the current menu's as being described as 'discoverable'. Even
with the examples - one can argue that current menus are discoverable. How
about just moving the one phrase up to the provision.
1.2-A - Accessibility Configuration
In complying with this subpart, each agency must activate accessibility
features and configure products so that they are accessible to and usable by
people with disabilities such that the means to activate the accessibility
features and configure products is comparable in prominence to the volume or
channel changing controls.
For example:
1. A caption on/off on a TV remote comparable in prominence to the volume
control on that remote;
2. A gain wheel or slider on a telephone receiver handset;
3. A tactile button to turn on audio equivalents;
4. A user preferences dialog that is accessible and directly reachable from
a login screen.
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:50 PM
> To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee; Dave Singer; Al
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> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Tomorrow's conf call
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> Here is the text I was working on, I've attached four
> examples, if anyone thinks we need more then please suggest them
>
>
> I suggest a modification of the existing provision 1.2 A to
> allow for the requirement that the means to set up a feature
> be accessible to the person that needs it, as follows;
>
> 1.2-A - Accessibility Configuration
> In complying with this subpart, each agency must activate
> accessibility features and configure products so that they
> are accessible to and usable by people with disabilities. The
> means to activate the accessibility features and configure
> products must be accessible, discoverable and usable by those
> desiring the feature.
>
> For example:
> 1. A caption on/off on a TV remote comparable in prominence
> to the volume control on that remote; 2. A gain wheel or
> slider on a telephone receiver handset; 3. A tactile button
> to turn on audio equivalents; 4. A user preferences dialog
> that is accessible and directly reachable from a login screen.
>
>
> Sean Hayes
> Incubation Lab
> Accessibility Business Unit
> Microsoft
>
> Office: +44 118 909 5867,
> Mobile: +44 7875 091385
>
>
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> Larry Goldberg
> Sent: 10 October 2007 16:30
> To: Dave Singer; TEITAC AV list; Al Sonnenstrahl;
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> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Tomorrow's conf call
>
> Dave's suggestion regarding a more generic, but strong,
> requirement for the accessibility and usability of access
> controls bears serious consideration.
> Let's do so at today's conference call.
>
> ... Larry ...
>
>
> Dave Singer wrote:
>
> > At 15:31 -0400 9/10/07, Larry Goldberg wrote:
> >>
> >> We will discuss today's Plenary meeting/conference call, suggested
> >> changes to the enclosed draft, and hopefully come to a conclusion
> >> regarding the "caption button"/"top-level menu" proposal.
> >
> > As worded, I really don't think I can -- or we should -- agree to
> > these, unless they are restricted to 'classical analog television'.
> > They are both making into mandates a question of the design of the
> > system.
> >
> > The furthest we should go in this direction is a
> recommendation. We
> > simply do not know how to design these products, and inserting a
> > design mandate may well have a counter-productive effect:
> > manufacturers who were willing to meet the spirit of the
> regulations,
> > and provide accessible equipment, may well not wish to meet
> the letter
> > of such a design mandate, and consequently (since they
> would no longer
> > be able to claim compliance) do nothing.
> >
> > I am also wondering why the people needing captions need to
> have this
> > explicit access method, but those (for example) needing audio
> > description of video are left without even a guideline as to how it
> > should be enabled?
> >
> > Finally, what happens to option (2) when the menus on a system are
> > enabled some other way than pressing a menu button on a remote?
> >
> > So, trying again, I'd like to *broaden* the scope of the *mandate*
> > while leaving product design only recommended:
> >
> > * * * * *
> >
> > For all accessibility options, including but not limited to
> Captions,
> > and Audio Description of Video [or whatever the term we settled on
> > is], the enabling and disabling of that accessibility
> option must also
> > be readily accessible to those desiring it, meaning that
> the control
> > must both be easy to find, and easily used by someone needing it.
> >
> > For captions, recommended approaches include:
> > 1. A caption on/off button on the TV remote control; 2. Caption
> > control(s) on the first menu that appears when on-screen menus are
> > displayed;
>
>
> - Larry
>
>
>
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