Thread Subject: Re: new language

From: Dave Singer
Date: Mon, Nov 05 2007 10:30 AM

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At 15:07 -0500 2/11/07, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
>Karen's text was in two places in here email.
>
>Only the first chunk was pulled and put into the other emails people posted.
>
> Just so long as we carry the other part forward too.
>
>
>"For products that are covered under 4-A.2, the user controls needed to
>access closed captioning and video description must be comparable in
>prominence to the play controls or channel selector."
>
>

what is the combined, latest proposed text?

>
>Gregg
> -- ------------------------------
>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
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>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
>Schomburg, Paul
>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:35 AM
>To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
>Subject: Re: [teitac-video] new language
>Gregg: I added this note on to the text in Karen's post of Wed
>10/31/2007 4:07 PM. I didn't delete any portion of the text. But I
>think my added note should apply to both 4-A.1 and 4-A.2 as both use
>the "comparable in prominence" phrase.
>
>Thanks, Paul
>
>Paul G. Schomburg, Sr. Manager
>Tel: (202) 912-3800 x114; Cell: (202) 550-2230
>
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karen
>Peltz Strauss
>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:18 AM
>To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
>Subject: Re: [teitac-video] new language
>
>I was assuming it was only addressing the top part.
>
>Karen
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >Gregg Vanderheiden
>To: <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >'TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee'
>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [teitac-video] new language
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>This cuts off the bottom part of Karen's post.
>
>Is this meant to replace the top part only (and the bottom part
>stays the same?)
>
>Or is this suggesting that the bottom part of Karens post be dropped
>entirely? (i.e. the part that related to 4A-2)
>
>
>The dropped text from Karen's email suggestion is
>
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>"For products that are covered under 4-A.2, the user controls needed to
>access closed captioning and video description must be comparable in
>prominence to the play controls or channel selector."
>
>
>
>Gregg
> -- ------------------------------
>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karen
>Peltz Strauss
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:59 PM
>To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
>Subject: Re: [teitac-video] new language
>
>This is fine with me.
>
>Karen
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >Schomburg, Paul
>To: <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [teitac-video] new language
>
>Folks: As discussed on yesterday's TEITAC AV call, I have added a
>suggested note to amend Karen's language below that I hope is
>understandable & acceptable.
>
>Thanks, Paul
>----Original Message-----
>From:
><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>[<mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>On Behalf Of Karen Peltz Strauss
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:07 PM
>To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee
>Subject: [teitac-video] new language
>
>For products that are covered under 4-A.1, the user controls needed
>to access closed captioning and video description must be in at
>least one location that is comparable in prominence to the controls
>needed to control volume or program selection. At a minimum, this
>requires placement of such controls on either the product's physical
>apparatus or its remote control, where the ability to control volume
>or program selection is otherwise provided on that apparatus or
>remote control.
>
>For example:
>
>For captioning:
> a.. A caption on/off button on a TV remote comparable in
>prominence to the volume control on that remote;
> b.. Caption controls on the first menu that appear when on-screen
>menus are displayed
>
>For video description: A tactile button to turn on video description.
>
>Note: "Comparable in prominence" does not require exact equivalence
>in size, location, or shape.
>Rationale: Manufacturers are encouraged to use buttons with unique
>shapes to enable persons with low vision to make a tactile
>distinction among them.
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