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From: Mike Paciello
Date: Mon, Nov 05 2007 8:20 PM
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Hi Peter -
Thanks for the quick input. Jim and I will take time on Tuesday to lay the
ground work for the FPC/AT-IT discussions (thus, the 30 minute opening
comment period). We expect to lead the full discussion, develop clarity, and
with a little divine providence, generate a solution that everyone feels
Regarding the specific provisions -- you will note that under each
discussion area we reference sections of provisions. It is our plan to
initially review the provisions by section, identify the provisions that
have consensus, set them aside as "consensed", then dive into those
provisions requiring further clarity and revision before consensus is
The KPS document/revisions will be considered during the Telecomm provision
Thanks for your suggestion concerning a method for discussing provisions. We
will certainly take this into consideration since both Jim and I are
committed to covering all the provisions and ensuring that all members have
an equal voice and share in the consensus process.
We will try to be as flexible as possible -- but your point is well taken --
in order to be effective throughout this series of meetings, we need to be
focused and committed to our charter.
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Subject: Re: [teitac-committee] Draft Agenda for November TEITAC Meetings
Thanks for the draft agenda and the invitation to provide input to it.
I really appreciate how you have laid out the day on Tuesday - two
healthy periods for FPC/AT-IT, with a 45 minute break in which
potentially intensive side-bar discussions have space to occur. Very
wise... I think it might also be helpful to set forth at least an
initial set of questions around this issue (though it may not be
exhaustive), to help focus the conversation.
For the remaining three days, it isn't clear to me which specific
provisions we'll be working on. Can you enumerate the provisions you
expect to be discussed in each of these sections?
Also, we received from Karen Peltz-Strauss a list of additions./changes
based on the review the committee asked her to do of 255. Is there a
specific place in the agenda for a discussion of that work, or do you
expect to address those in each section that the occur in?
Finally, for any given provision discussion, I'd like to suggest we set
forth some sort of "time limit" or duration for discussion toward
consensus language, and after that time (with flexibility if the
committee feels we are "getting close"), we focus the discussion around
approval of 2 or 3 alternate versions to put forth in the report. At the
end, if we have time left, we might then revisit some we felt close on.
This is essentially a sort of "multiple choice test taking strategy",
where we ensure that we get to every provision and make an attempt at
achieving consensus on those that are still in question going in to our
meeting next week, and ensuring that we have at least a collection of
TEITAC-approved alternate versions to put forth to the Access Board for
any place where we failed to reach consensus.
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> Folks -
> Attached please find a draft of the agenda for the TEITAC meetings in
> November. Comments and recommendations are welcome. Please be sure to
> copy Jim Tobias, Tim Creagan and myself on your response. I've
> included all 3 of our email addresses in the CC field of this e-mail
> to simplify the process. Send your comments to us by close of business
> Wednesday, November 7 (this Wednesday). We attempted to accommodate
> schedules based on member requests. The attachment is in MS Word
> format. If you require an alternative format, please feel free to
> contact me.
> We would like to take this time to provide you with a few brief
> reminders in preparation for this important set of meetings:
> 1. Please be sure to thoroughly review the complete set of
> guidelines and provisions as documented in the October 26 draft
> 2. Please be sure to thoroughly review the Sandbox page (Updates)
> which includes a number of recommended changes, most of which
> resulted from the various membership reviews and minority report
> drafts (http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Oct_26_Updates)
> Note that have set aside a significant period of time on Tuesday to
> discuss the cornerstone topics of Functional Performance Criteria and
> We remind you that the primary purpose of these meetings is to
> determine consensus of the provisions. The agenda has been designed to
> accommodate the consensus process. If you are not clear on the
> definition and role of consensus for this committee, please note the
> following description that David Capozzi used in his presentation to
> TEITAC on September 27, 2006:
> - An opinion or position reached by a group as a whole
> - Every member can say...
> * I believe that you understand my point of view and that I understand
> * Whether or not I prefer the group decision, I support them because
> they were reached fairly and openly and they are the best decisions at
> this time
> * We all share in the final decision
> Consensus does not mean...
> - Unanimous or majority vote
> - Everyone's first choice
> - That everyone agrees, although enough need to be in favor to get the
> decision carried out
> You can download this presentation from the TEITAC Wiki at:
> Regards and thanks,
> Jim Tobias
> Mike Paciello
> TEITAC Co-Chairs
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