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From: Jasionowski, Tony
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2007 4:25 PM
Subject: teitac-video immersive environments

Kate,
At this stage of our process I do not think that our AV subcommittee can
realistically tackle such "immersive environments" considering the other
work we have remaining. Possibly one of the other subcommittees might
have interest in tackling "immersive environments".
Thanks.

Tony Jasionowski
Panasonic
AV Co-Chair
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:06 -0400
From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [teitac-video]
[teitac-general][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility of Second
Life and
related applications
To: "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Web/Software
Subcommittee"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Audio/Video
Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Message-ID: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

David Poehlman wrote:
These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
federal agency or others bound by 508.

Kate replies:
David, I agree that they do not meet Section 508 as is. I wonder if
there are ways to make the underlying data accessible or ways for us to
ensure there are standards that address this type of technology moving
forward, to help promote accessibility. To date, we didn't stop looking
at or considering the use of technologies just because they weren't
accessible at the time, but rather looked to see whether we could make
the underlying data accessible somehow and ultimately provide an
accessible format.

Since sending my original note, I've learned that there is now a version
that has audio capabilities - I'm not certain whether it just tells the
user what is happening or enables speech input as well. Still checking.

I've added the video subcommittee to the distribution list as well -
accidentally left them off original send.

Cheers,
Kate
-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of David
Poehlman
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:44 AM
To: TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee; TEITAC
Web/Software Subcommittee
Subject: Re:
[teitac-general][teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility ofSecond
Lifeand related applications

These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
federal
agency or others bound by 508.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >;
"TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: [teitac-general]
[teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
ofSecond Life and related applications


All,



The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, National Institutes of
Health, National Library of Medicine, Library of Congress, National
Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency, and about 10 others government agencies
now use Second Life (http://www.lindenlabs.com
<http://www.lindenlabs.com/> )

for various functions including training simulations and public
outreach. Second Life is a sort of immersive environment in which you
move your avatar around and communicate with other avatars. You can buy
and sell services and goods, attend presentations, sit in forums, etc.
A group - Real Life Government in Second Life - has even sprung up to
enable these agencies to discuss and share ideas about using Second
Life. Use of Second Life and other immersive experiences may expand in
coming years for education and training, collaboration, and information
retrieval. The Real Life Government in Second Life group has raised
questions about Section 508 from what I understand.



In talking with some folks across the subcommittees, it doesn't sound
like any of us have discussed the accessibility of these immersive
environments or networked virtual environments. (There are others
besides Second Life) Not an easy beast to tackle, let alone in time for
June/July deadlines, but an area we should at least discuss and explore.



I can set up a discussion with some of our SRA folks who work with the
Real Life Government in Second Life group (and potentially with some of
that group's members) but have hesitated as any demonstrations of the
Second Life environment would not be accessible.



Is there interest in exploring this through at least a discussion with
folks who have been working with the agencies and have insight into how
they're using Second Life? And if so, please think about which
subcommittee we should have take the ball on this one - general, video,
web-software?



Cheers,

Kate





Kate Walser

Director, Usability Center of Excellence

SRA International, Inc.

4300 Fair Lakes Court

Fairfax, VA 22033

(703) 502-1170

From: Larry Goldberg
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: teitac-video immersive environments

I have to agree with Tony - in fact this is such a new and emerging and
cross-cutting area, I think the committee as a whole should tackle it
together - perhaps at the next face-to-face.

- Larry


Jasionowski, Tony wrote:

> Kate,
> At this stage of our process I do not think that our AV subcommittee can
> realistically tackle such "immersive environments" considering the other
> work we have remaining. Possibly one of the other subcommittees might
> have interest in tackling "immersive environments".
> Thanks.
>
> Tony Jasionowski
> Panasonic
> AV Co-Chair
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:06 -0400
> From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video]
> [teitac-general][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility of Second
> Life and
> related applications
> To: "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Web/Software
> Subcommittee"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Audio/Video
> Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Message-ID: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> David Poehlman wrote:
> These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
> federal agency or others bound by 508.
>
> Kate replies:
> David, I agree that they do not meet Section 508 as is. I wonder if
> there are ways to make the underlying data accessible or ways for us to
> ensure there are standards that address this type of technology moving
> forward, to help promote accessibility. To date, we didn't stop looking
> at or considering the use of technologies just because they weren't
> accessible at the time, but rather looked to see whether we could make
> the underlying data accessible somehow and ultimately provide an
> accessible format.
>
> Since sending my original note, I've learned that there is now a version
> that has audio capabilities - I'm not certain whether it just tells the
> user what is happening or enables speech input as well. Still checking.
>
> I've added the video subcommittee to the distribution list as well -
> accidentally left them off original send.
>
> Cheers,
> Kate
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of David
> Poehlman
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:44 AM
> To: TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee; TEITAC
> Web/Software Subcommittee
> Subject: Re:
> [teitac-general][teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility ofSecond
> Lifeand related applications
>
> These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
> federal
> agency or others bound by 508.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >;
> "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:08 AM
> Subject: [teitac-general]
> [teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> ofSecond Life and related applications
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, National Institutes of
> Health, National Library of Medicine, Library of Congress, National
> Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency, and about 10 others government agencies
> now use Second Life (http://www.lindenlabs.com
> <http://www.lindenlabs.com/> )
>
> for various functions including training simulations and public
> outreach. Second Life is a sort of immersive environment in which you
> move your avatar around and communicate with other avatars. You can buy
> and sell services and goods, attend presentations, sit in forums, etc.
> A group - Real Life Government in Second Life - has even sprung up to
> enable these agencies to discuss and share ideas about using Second
> Life. Use of Second Life and other immersive experiences may expand in
> coming years for education and training, collaboration, and information
> retrieval. The Real Life Government in Second Life group has raised
> questions about Section 508 from what I understand.
>
>
>
> In talking with some folks across the subcommittees, it doesn't sound
> like any of us have discussed the accessibility of these immersive
> environments or networked virtual environments. (There are others
> besides Second Life) Not an easy beast to tackle, let alone in time for
> June/July deadlines, but an area we should at least discuss and explore.
>
>
>
> I can set up a discussion with some of our SRA folks who work with the
> Real Life Government in Second Life group (and potentially with some of
> that group's members) but have hesitated as any demonstrations of the
> Second Life environment would not be accessible.
>
>
>
> Is there interest in exploring this through at least a discussion with
> folks who have been working with the agencies and have insight into how
> they're using Second Life? And if so, please think about which
> subcommittee we should have take the ball on this one - general, video,
> web-software?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>
>
> Kate Walser
>
> Director, Usability Center of Excellence
>
> SRA International, Inc.
>
> 4300 Fair Lakes Court
>
> Fairfax, VA 22033
>
> (703) 502-1170
>
>
>
>
>

From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: teitac-video immersive environments

Actually I would think immersive environments would be more dynamic content
than AV. No?


Gregg
-- ------------------------------
Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Larry Goldberg
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:02 PM
> To: TEITAC AV list
> Cc: Mike Paciello
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
>
> I have to agree with Tony - in fact this is such a new and
> emerging and cross-cutting area, I think the committee as a
> whole should tackle it together - perhaps at the next face-to-face.
>
> - Larry
>
>
> Jasionowski, Tony wrote:
>
> > Kate,
> > At this stage of our process I do not think that our AV
> subcommittee
> > can realistically tackle such "immersive environments"
> considering the
> > other work we have remaining. Possibly one of the other
> subcommittees
> > might have interest in tackling "immersive environments".
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tony Jasionowski
> > Panasonic
> > AV Co-Chair
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:06 -0400
> > From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [teitac-video]
> > [teitac-general][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility of Second
> Life and
> > related applications
> > To: "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Web/Software
> Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Audio/Video
> > Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Message-ID: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > David Poehlman wrote:
> > These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
> > federal agency or others bound by 508.
> >
> > Kate replies:
> > David, I agree that they do not meet Section 508 as is. I wonder if
> > there are ways to make the underlying data accessible or
> ways for us
> > to ensure there are standards that address this type of technology
> > moving forward, to help promote accessibility. To date, we
> didn't stop
> > looking at or considering the use of technologies just because they
> > weren't accessible at the time, but rather looked to see whether we
> > could make the underlying data accessible somehow and ultimately
> > provide an accessible format.
> >
> > Since sending my original note, I've learned that there is now a
> > version that has audio capabilities - I'm not certain
> whether it just
> > tells the user what is happening or enables speech input as
> well. Still checking.
> >
> > I've added the video subcommittee to the distribution list
> as well -
> > accidentally left them off original send.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kate
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of David
> > Poehlman
> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:44 AM
> > To: TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee; TEITAC
> > Web/Software Subcommittee
> > Subject: Re:
> > [teitac-general][teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> > ofSecond Lifeand related applications
> >
> > These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
> > federal agency or others bound by 508.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >;
> > "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:08 AM
> > Subject: [teitac-general]
> > [teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> > ofSecond Life and related applications
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, National
> Institutes of
> > Health, National Library of Medicine, Library of Congress, National
> > Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency, and about 10 others government
> > agencies now use Second Life (http://www.lindenlabs.com
> > <http://www.lindenlabs.com/> )
> >
> > for various functions including training simulations and public
> > outreach. Second Life is a sort of immersive environment in
> which you
> > move your avatar around and communicate with other avatars. You can
> > buy and sell services and goods, attend presentations, sit
> in forums, etc.
> > A group - Real Life Government in Second Life - has even
> sprung up to
> > enable these agencies to discuss and share ideas about using Second
> > Life. Use of Second Life and other immersive experiences
> may expand in
> > coming years for education and training, collaboration, and
> > information retrieval. The Real Life Government in Second
> Life group
> > has raised questions about Section 508 from what I understand.
> >
> >
> >
> > In talking with some folks across the subcommittees, it
> doesn't sound
> > like any of us have discussed the accessibility of these immersive
> > environments or networked virtual environments. (There are others
> > besides Second Life) Not an easy beast to tackle, let alone in time
> > for June/July deadlines, but an area we should at least
> discuss and explore.
> >
> >
> >
> > I can set up a discussion with some of our SRA folks who
> work with the
> > Real Life Government in Second Life group (and potentially
> with some
> > of that group's members) but have hesitated as any
> demonstrations of
> > the Second Life environment would not be accessible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there interest in exploring this through at least a
> discussion with
> > folks who have been working with the agencies and have insight into
> > how they're using Second Life? And if so, please think about which
> > subcommittee we should have take the ball on this one - general,
> > video, web-software?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kate
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kate Walser
> >
> > Director, Usability Center of Excellence
> >
> > SRA International, Inc.
> >
> > 4300 Fair Lakes Court
> >
> > Fairfax, VA 22033
> >
> > (703) 502-1170
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2007 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: teitac-video immersive environments

Sure - Audio / video is just linear. Secondlife and other similar
environments are not audio/video, although they could contain audio and
video. It is software.
AWK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Gregg Vanderheiden
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:02 PM
> To: 'TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee'
> Cc: 'Mike Paciello'
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
>
> Actually I would think immersive environments would be more
> dynamic content than AV. No?
>
>
> Gregg
> -- ------------------------------
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Larry
> > Goldberg
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:02 PM
> > To: TEITAC AV list
> > Cc: Mike Paciello
> > Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
> >
> > I have to agree with Tony - in fact this is such a new and emerging
> > and cross-cutting area, I think the committee as a whole
> should tackle
> > it together - perhaps at the next face-to-face.
> >
> > - Larry
> >
> >
> > Jasionowski, Tony wrote:
> >
> > > Kate,
> > > At this stage of our process I do not think that our AV
> > subcommittee
> > > can realistically tackle such "immersive environments"
> > considering the
> > > other work we have remaining. Possibly one of the other
> > subcommittees
> > > might have interest in tackling "immersive environments".
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Tony Jasionowski
> > > Panasonic
> > > AV Co-Chair
> > >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:06 -0400
> > > From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > Subject: Re: [teitac-video]
> > > [teitac-general][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility of Second
> > Life and
> > > related applications
> > > To: "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> > > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Web/Software
> > Subcommittee"
> > > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Audio/Video
> > > Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > Message-ID:
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > David Poehlman wrote:
> > > These environments are not accessible and should not be
> used by any
> > > federal agency or others bound by 508.
> > >
> > > Kate replies:
> > > David, I agree that they do not meet Section 508 as is. I
> wonder if
> > > there are ways to make the underlying data accessible or
> > ways for us
> > > to ensure there are standards that address this type of
> technology
> > > moving forward, to help promote accessibility. To date, we
> > didn't stop
> > > looking at or considering the use of technologies just
> because they
> > > weren't accessible at the time, but rather looked to see
> whether we
> > > could make the underlying data accessible somehow and ultimately
> > > provide an accessible format.
> > >
> > > Since sending my original note, I've learned that there is now a
> > > version that has audio capabilities - I'm not certain
> > whether it just
> > > tells the user what is happening or enables speech input as
> > well. Still checking.
> > >
> > > I've added the video subcommittee to the distribution list
> > as well -
> > > accidentally left them off original send.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Kate
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of David
> > > Poehlman
> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:44 AM
> > > To: TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee; TEITAC
> > > Web/Software Subcommittee
> > > Subject: Re:
> > > [teitac-general][teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> > > ofSecond Lifeand related applications
> > >
> > > These environments are not accessible and should not be
> used by any
> > > federal agency or others bound by 508.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > To: "TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee"
> > > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >;
> > > "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> > > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:08 AM
> > > Subject: [teitac-general]
> > > [teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> > > ofSecond Life and related applications
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, National
> > Institutes of
> > > Health, National Library of Medicine, Library of
> Congress, National
> > > Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency, and about 10 others government
> > > agencies now use Second Life (http://www.lindenlabs.com
> > > <http://www.lindenlabs.com/> )
> > >
> > > for various functions including training simulations and public
> > > outreach. Second Life is a sort of immersive environment in
> > which you
> > > move your avatar around and communicate with other
> avatars. You can
> > > buy and sell services and goods, attend presentations, sit
> > in forums, etc.
> > > A group - Real Life Government in Second Life - has even
> > sprung up to
> > > enable these agencies to discuss and share ideas about
> using Second
> > > Life. Use of Second Life and other immersive experiences
> > may expand in
> > > coming years for education and training, collaboration, and
> > > information retrieval. The Real Life Government in Second
> > Life group
> > > has raised questions about Section 508 from what I understand.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In talking with some folks across the subcommittees, it
> > doesn't sound
> > > like any of us have discussed the accessibility of these
> immersive
> > > environments or networked virtual environments. (There are others
> > > besides Second Life) Not an easy beast to tackle, let
> alone in time
> > > for June/July deadlines, but an area we should at least
> > discuss and explore.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can set up a discussion with some of our SRA folks who
> > work with the
> > > Real Life Government in Second Life group (and potentially
> > with some
> > > of that group's members) but have hesitated as any
> > demonstrations of
> > > the Second Life environment would not be accessible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there interest in exploring this through at least a
> > discussion with
> > > folks who have been working with the agencies and have
> insight into
> > > how they're using Second Life? And if so, please think
> about which
> > > subcommittee we should have take the ball on this one - general,
> > > video, web-software?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Kate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kate Walser
> > >
> > > Director, Usability Center of Excellence
> > >
> > > SRA International, Inc.
> > >
> > > 4300 Fair Lakes Court
> > >
> > > Fairfax, VA 22033
> > >
> > > (703) 502-1170
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

From: Greg Fields
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: teitac-video immersive environments

As a Second Life user myself, this is an application that is developed and deployed on a platform (with AT support) and as such could be subject to all the provisions set out in web and software.

The degree to which software is immersive - which is a subjective measure that isn't easy to test - may not create cause for any distinction from other software that may be seen as less immersive.

Thoughts?

Greg Fields
-----------------------
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Sent: Tue Jun 26 23:02:15 2007
Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments

Actually I would think immersive environments would be more dynamic content
than AV. No?


Gregg
-- ------------------------------
Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Larry Goldberg
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:02 PM
> To: TEITAC AV list
> Cc: Mike Paciello
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] teitac-video immersive environments
>
> I have to agree with Tony - in fact this is such a new and
> emerging and cross-cutting area, I think the committee as a
> whole should tackle it together - perhaps at the next face-to-face.
>
> - Larry
>
>
> Jasionowski, Tony wrote:
>
> > Kate,
> > At this stage of our process I do not think that our AV
> subcommittee
> > can realistically tackle such "immersive environments"
> considering the
> > other work we have remaining. Possibly one of the other
> subcommittees
> > might have interest in tackling "immersive environments".
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tony Jasionowski
> > Panasonic
> > AV Co-Chair
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:06 -0400
> > From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [teitac-video]
> > [teitac-general][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility of Second
> Life and
> > related applications
> > To: "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Web/Software
> Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >, "TEITAC Audio/Video
> > Subcommittee" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Message-ID: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > David Poehlman wrote:
> > These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
> > federal agency or others bound by 508.
> >
> > Kate replies:
> > David, I agree that they do not meet Section 508 as is. I wonder if
> > there are ways to make the underlying data accessible or
> ways for us
> > to ensure there are standards that address this type of technology
> > moving forward, to help promote accessibility. To date, we
> didn't stop
> > looking at or considering the use of technologies just because they
> > weren't accessible at the time, but rather looked to see whether we
> > could make the underlying data accessible somehow and ultimately
> > provide an accessible format.
> >
> > Since sending my original note, I've learned that there is now a
> > version that has audio capabilities - I'm not certain
> whether it just
> > tells the user what is happening or enables speech input as
> well. Still checking.
> >
> > I've added the video subcommittee to the distribution list
> as well -
> > accidentally left them off original send.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kate
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of David
> > Poehlman
> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:44 AM
> > To: TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee; TEITAC
> > Web/Software Subcommittee
> > Subject: Re:
> > [teitac-general][teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> > ofSecond Lifeand related applications
> >
> > These environments are not accessible and should not be used by any
> > federal agency or others bound by 508.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Walser, Kate" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >;
> > "TEITAC General Interface Accessibility Subcommittee"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:08 AM
> > Subject: [teitac-general]
> > [teitac-video][teitac-websoftware]Accessibility
> > ofSecond Life and related applications
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, National
> Institutes of
> > Health, National Library of Medicine, Library of Congress, National
> > Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency, and about 10 others government
> > agencies now use Second Life (http://www.lindenlabs.com
> > <http://www.lindenlabs.com/> )
> >
> > for various functions including training simulations and public
> > outreach. Second Life is a sort of immersive environment in
> which you
> > move your avatar around and communicate with other avatars. You can
> > buy and sell services and goods, attend presentations, sit
> in forums, etc.
> > A group - Real Life Government in Second Life - has even
> sprung up to
> > enable these agencies to discuss and share ideas about using Second
> > Life. Use of Second Life and other immersive experiences
> may expand in
> > coming years for education and training, collaboration, and
> > information retrieval. The Real Life Government in Second
> Life group
> > has raised questions about Section 508 from what I understand.
> >
> >
> >
> > In talking with some folks across the subcommittees, it
> doesn't sound
> > like any of us have discussed the accessibility of these immersive
> > environments or networked virtual environments. (There are others
> > besides Second Life) Not an easy beast to tackle, let alone in time
> > for June/July deadlines, but an area we should at least
> discuss and explore.
> >
> >
> >
> > I can set up a discussion with some of our SRA folks who
> work with the
> > Real Life Government in Second Life group (and potentially
> with some
> > of that group's members) but have hesitated as any
> demonstrations of
> > the Second Life environment would not be accessible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there interest in exploring this through at least a
> discussion with
> > folks who have been working with the agencies and have insight into
> > how they're using Second Life? And if so, please think about which
> > subcommittee we should have take the ball on this one - general,
> > video, web-software?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kate
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kate Walser
> >
> > Director, Usability Center of Excellence
> >
> > SRA International, Inc.
> >
> > 4300 Fair Lakes Court
> >
> > Fairfax, VA 22033
> >
> > (703) 502-1170
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >