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From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Tue, Jul 31 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: FW: Follow up to TC SC meeting today, July 30. Need your input!
Sorry - should have included a corrected version to make it easier to read.
It should read
Firewalls, routers,gateways and other products that pass real-time voice
communication must also pass real-time text communication signals (including
mixed voice and real-time text) that are standard in the US for that
technology platform without distortion or error beyond 1%.
Technologies which use encoding, signal compression, format transformation,
or similar techniques must not remove information needed for access, or must
restore it upon delivery
(I moved "in the US")
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Hi
Three suggested changes.
1) drop the note - the provision says it is about gateways etc but then
the note says that it only applies to phones. (which contradicts the
clause)
2) Keep the old second paragraph : "Technologies which use encoding,
signal compression, format transformation, or similar techniques must not
remove information needed for access, or must restore it upon delivery. "
This is a common problem and these folk usually miss it.
3) Add "in the US" after "that are standard for that technology
platform " so that it reads "that are standard for that technology platform
in the US.." Otherwise it might require all of the different PSTN formats
for all countries.
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
The 7 people attending the meeting today signed off on some provisions.
Please review and let me knowif you are OK with the following:
Definition of Menu
A set of selectable options
OK_________
No_________
Alternatelanguage_____________
............................................................................
.......................................
1194.23(j)
1.2-D EWG draft July 18
Pass through
The following two paragraphs are the same as in the original 508...
Products that transmit or conduct information or communication must pass
through cross-manufacturer, non-proprietary, industry-standard codes,
translation protocols, formats or other information necessary to provide the
information or communications in a usable format.
Technologies which use encoding, signal compression, format transformation,
or similar techniques must not remove information needed for access, or must
restore it upon delivery.
New language added:
Firewalls, routers,gateways and other products that pass real-time voice
communication must also pass real-time text communication signals (including
mixed voice and real-time text) that are standard for that technology
platform without distortion or error beyond 1%.
Note: Only phones that are passing text signals onto another device e.g.
TTY, would be subject to this provision
OK____________
No_____________
Alternate language_________________
............................................................................
.....................................................................
1194.23(h) Magnetic Coupling
2.3-A EWG draft July 18
As asubcommittee you already agreed to the following language apart from the
last sentence which has been changed slightly according to TIA suggestion
and approved today on the call. The provision is shared by Hardware and will
be put out to the Hardware list.
Telecommunications products that deliver output with an audio transducer,
which is normally held up to the ear, must provide a means for effective
magnetic wirless coupling to hearing technologies that allows a user to
effectively utilize the product. This guideline shall apply to wireline and
wireless technologies.(changed from"this guideline applies to wireless,
wireline, cordless and Bluetooth applications")
............................................................................
......................................
Next week's meeting Monday, August 6th 2-4pm to focus on Real time text.
From: Gunnar Hellström
Date: Wed, Aug 01 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Follow up to TC SC meeting today, July 30. Need your input!
OK for the menu definition.
NOK for the Passthrough. The Note about telephones is confusing in this
environment and should be deleted.
I find the rest of the Passthrough definition and requirement good and
important.
I have some questions to check for the new section on firewalls etc:
1: Do everybody understand "real-time text communication signals" as being
transported either in audible modem-coded form or in text-coded form as the
standard for the platform specifies? If so, OK, otherwise, a change to
"real-time text communication information" is proposed.
2.The phrase: "that are standard for that technology platform ", is a good
and important phrase that can lead to the interoperability goal as well. But
who will decide what the standard is and where will it be documented? In
this document or by the industry, or by whom?
3. I also noted a later proposed addition of "In the US". That comment may
be valid for PSTN,where we already have discrepancies, while for packet
network environments, I would like to see an ambition to procure systems
with global interoperability, thus using international standards. Otherwise
the "comparable access" requirement will not be achieved. I suggest putting
the comment on US in paranthesis with a small extension to read "(for PSTN
signals, the US standards ).
Gunnar
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Subject: [teitac-telecom] Follow up to TC SC meeting today,July 30. Need
your input!
The 7 people attending the meeting today signed off on some provisions.
Please review and let me know if you are OK with the following:
Definition of Menu
A set of selectable options
OK_________
No_________
Alternate language_____________
............................................................................
.......................................
1194.23(j)
1.2-D EWG draft July 18
Pass through
The following two paragraphs are the same as in the original 508...
Products that transmit or conduct information or communication must pass
through cross-manufacturer, non-proprietary, industry-standard codes,
translation protocols, formats or other information necessary to provide the
information or communications in a usable format.
Technologies which use encoding, signal compression, format transformation,
or similar techniques must not remove information needed for access, or must
restore it upon delivery.
New language added:
Firewalls, routers, gateways and other products that pass real-time voice
communication must also pass real-time text communication signals (including
mixed voice and real-time text) that are standard for that technology
platform without distortion or error beyond 1%.
Note: Only phones that are passing text signals onto another device e.g.
TTY, would be subject to this provision
OK____________
No_____________
Alternate language_________________
............................................................................
.....................................................................
1194.23(h) Magnetic Coupling
2.3-A EWG draft July 18
As a subcommittee you already agreed to the following language apart from
the last sentence which has been changed slightly according to TIA
suggestion and approved today on the call. The provision is shared by
Hardware and will be put out to the Hardware list.
Telecommunications products that deliver output with an audio transducer,
which is normally held up to the ear, must provide a means for effective
magnetic wirless coupling to hearing technologies that allows a user to
effectively utilize the product. This guideline shall apply to wireline and
wireless technologies.(changed from "this guideline applies to wireless,
wireline, cordless and Bluetooth applications")
............................................................................
......................................
Next week's meeting Monday, August 6th 2-4pm to focus on Real time text.
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