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From: Jim Tobias
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 5:25 AM
Subject: draft of April 3 presentation to Access Board
Hi All,
Attached is the draft of our presentation to the Access Board. Please
review it and comment. Thanks.
***
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From: Yamada@TOYO-UNIV
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: draft of April 3 presentation to Access Board
Jim,
Please add the attached picture in the slide titled "Building Trust." The
picture is cherry blossom in Japan.
Thank you.
Hajime
From: Gregg Vanderheiden
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: presentation
Slide 8
Third bullet says.
. "Software", "Web", and "Multimedia" now largely converged into
"User Interface and Electronic Content"
But we actually have a separate section for 'mulitmedia'
And hardware firmware and behavior is in UI&EC section
so suggest changing to
. "Software", "Web", and "Interface Software in Hardware" now
largely converged into "User Interface and Electronic Content"
Slide 26
. Real-time text
. "TTY-like" interface
A key part is that we preserve TTY for legacy (PSTN) but we are not moving
TTY to the IP
Perhaps we should change second line to:
. Real-time text
. TTY compatibility but not bring TTY onto IP
Thanks
Gregg
------------------------
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Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center
University of Wisconsin-Madison
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From: Jim Tobias
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: presentation
thanks -- good points.
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From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:17 PM
To: 'TEITAC Committee'
Subject: [teitac-committee] presentation
Slide 8
Third bullet says.
. "Software", "Web", and "Multimedia" now largely converged into
"User Interface and Electronic Content"
But we actually have a separate section for 'mulitmedia'
And hardware firmware and behavior is in UI&EC section
so suggest changing to
. "Software", "Web", and "Interface Software in Hardware" now
largely converged into "User Interface and Electronic Content"
Slide 26
. Real-time text
. "TTY-like" interface
A key part is that we preserve TTY for legacy (PSTN) but we are not moving
TTY to the IP
Perhaps we should change second line to:
. Real-time text
. TTY compatibility but not bring TTY onto IP
Thanks
Gregg
------------------------
Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center
University of Wisconsin-Madison
< <http://trace.wisc.edu/> http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848
DSS Player at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
If Attachment is a mail.dat try <http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/>
http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/
<http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/>
From: Peter Korn
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: presentation
Hi Jim,
When may we expect another draft? Some sections appear to still be
waiting on content.
Thanks,
Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> thanks -- good points.
>
>
> ***
> Jim Tobias
> Inclusive Technologies
> +1.732.441.0831 v/tty
> +1.908.907.2387 mobile
> skype jimtobias
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:17 PM
> *To:* 'TEITAC Committee'
> *Subject:* [teitac-committee] presentation
>
>
> */Slide 8/*
>
> Third bullet says.
>
> . "Software", "Web", and "Multimedia" now largely
> converged into "User Interface and Electronic Content"
>
>
>
> But we actually have a separate section for 'mulitmedia'
>
> And hardware firmware and behavior is in UI&EC section
>
>
>
> so suggest changing to
>
> . "Software", "Web", and "Interface Software in Hardware"
> now largely converged into "User Interface and Electronic Content"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> */Slide 26/*
>
>
>
> . Real-time text
>
> . "TTY-like" interface
>
>
>
> A key part is that we preserve TTY for legacy (PSTN) but we are
> not moving TTY to the IP
>
>
>
> Perhaps we should change second line to:
>
>
>
> . Real-time text
>
> . TTY compatibility but not bring TTY onto IP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Gregg
>
> ------------------------
>
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> Director - Trace R & D Center
> University of Wisconsin-Madison
> _<http://trace.wisc.edu/>_ FAX 608/262-8848
>
> DSS Player at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
>
> If Attachment is a mail.dat try http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/
>
> <http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
From: Mike Paciello
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: presentation
Peter -
We just received comments on the current version and we're waiting for the
slides and, as you noted we are still waiting for contributions from the AT
folks (I believe that's it). Soon as we get them, they'll be integrated and
sent back out to the committee.
Regards and thanks for your patience.
Mike & Jim
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Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:49 PM
To: TEITAC Committee
Subject: Re: [teitac-committee] presentation
Hi Jim,
When may we expect another draft? Some sections appear to still be waiting
on content.
Thanks,
Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
thanks -- good points.
***
Jim Tobias
Inclusive Technologies
+1.732.441.0831 v/tty
+1.908.907.2387 mobile
skype jimtobias
_____
From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:17 PM
To: 'TEITAC Committee'
Subject: [teitac-committee] presentation
Slide 8
Third bullet says.
<!--[if !supportLists]-->. <!--[endif]-->"Software", "Web", and
"Multimedia" now largely converged into "User Interface and Electronic
Content"
But we actually have a separate section for 'mulitmedia'
And hardware firmware and behavior is in UI&EC section
so suggest changing to
<!--[if !supportLists]-->. <!--[endif]-->"Software", "Web", and
"Interface Software in Hardware" now largely converged into "User Interface
and Electronic Content"
Slide 26
<!--[if !supportLists]-->. <!--[endif]-->Real-time text
<!--[if !supportLists]-->. <!--[endif]-->"TTY-like" interface
A key part is that we preserve TTY for legacy (PSTN) but we are not moving
TTY to the IP
Perhaps we should change second line to:
<!--[if !supportLists]-->. <!--[endif]-->Real-time text
<!--[if !supportLists]-->. <!--[endif]-->TTY compatibility but not
bring TTY onto IP
Thanks
Gregg
------------------------
Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center
University of Wisconsin-Madison
< <http://trace.wisc.edu/> http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848
DSS Player at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
If Attachment is a mail.dat try <http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/>
http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/
<http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/>
_____
From: Judy Brewer
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: draft of April 3 presentation to Access Board
Jim, Mike,
Thanks for the chance to review the draft presentation to the Access Board.
Comments follow:
[slide 2: "today's topics"] Various stakeholder perspectives are
listed -- federal, industry, AT, and also additional perspectives
later in the presentation include state procurement -- but not a
disability perspective. Was a disability organization perspective
invited for Thursday's presentation? Seems odd if not, if we're
trying to represent the balance of our work. Is it still possible to include?
[slide 5: teitac begins] Please include standards organizations among
types of orgs recruited.
[slide 8: teitac results] It would be more accurate to add a
"largely" in front of "harmonized with WCAG 2.0." We did not achieve
complete harmonization, and in our report we advise the Access Board
to continue to monitor the development of WCAG 2.0 to continue to
increase harmonization.
[slide 21: sec 508 and int'l standards harmonization] Since the
presentation includes this graphic about the current mismatch of Sec
508 v 1 and WCAG 1.0, it should also include a corresponding updated
graphic on Sec 508 v 2 and WCAG 2.0 -- which will still show some
mismatch, and therefore work remaining.
[slides 30 and 31: harmonization] While I appreciate the cultural
sensitivities and agree that they are important to point out, I am
concerned that the description and goals of harmonization presented
here could be interpreted to encompass any degree of derivative work
based on existing standards. And while I respect the position of JIS,
I am not sure that the discussion of harmonization here reflects the
hard work that TEITAC invested towards the goal of careful alignment
of individual technical requirements between various international
standards in order to discourage re-fragmentation of international
standards and the re-emergence of conflicting technical requirements
which are a disadvantage to industry, particularly given the
cascading sequence of derivative standards that tends to occur on a
country-by-country basis over a period of years. Perhaps these two
slides could be reviewed with this concern in mind: for instance, on
slide 30, it currently states: "'Harmonized' is not 'Identical'"; I
think it is necessary to add, following that, "however it is
important to avoid conflicts in technical requirements." Otherwise,
we will quickly be back where we started. Perhaps also more could be
added into Andi's slides at a higher level with regard to TEITAC's
harmonization goals, and why this is an important goal.
Regards,
- Judy
At 07:19 AM 3/30/2008 -0400, Jim Tobias wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Attached is the draft of our presentation to the Access Board. Please
>review it and comment. Thanks.
>
>***
>Jim Tobias
>Inclusive Technologies
>+1.732.441.0831 v/tty
>+1.908.907.2387 mobile
>skype jimtobias
>
>
>
From: Jasionowski, Tony
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: draft of April 3 presentation to Access Board
Jim,
Looks good!
A minor point of clarification, can you add "interconnected" prior to
"VoIP" to bottom of slide 4?
Thanks.
Tony
Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Corporation of North America (PNA)
Technology Liaison & Alliances Group (TLAG)
1E-6
One Panasonic Way
Secaucus, New Jersey 07094
Tel.: 201-348-7777
Fax: 201-348-7807
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Tobias
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 7:20 AM
To: 'TEITAC Committee'
Subject: [teitac-committee] draft of April 3 presentation to Access
Board
Hi All,
Attached is the draft of our presentation to the Access Board. Please
review it and comment. Thanks.
***
Jim Tobias
Inclusive Technologies
+1.732.441.0831 v/tty
+1.908.907.2387 mobile
skype jimtobias
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